Rand on Maddow

OUCH! That was really tough to sit through. It was a train wreck. Rand refused to answer any question without an abstraction. Rand lost quite a few potential supporters. He sounded just like every other politician, avoiding the tougher questions. He had 10 minutes to explain the ideology, but instead repeated the same thing over and over. He got in a few good points. But in the bigger scope of things, I can't imagine the average person understanding what was going on. Ugh...I'm disgusted. Both at Rand's strategy and the idiocy of Americans who surely won't understand what Rand is saying.
 
Do you all realize how much attention this is going to bring to Paul. People will want to know what he thinks about it and will listen to his logic and position. I think it will have good results. The Paul's are not dumb. I believe they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
 
obijuan said:
I'm frankly glad that the issue came up now. It gives the campaign five months to put it to rest. I don't think it will take that long, actually. I have the utmost confidence in Rand's ability to communicate effectively, and I think he will do so once he gets some sleep.

I think it would be much worse for it to come up the last week in October. But that's just me.
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I agree 100%

They will drop some bomb right before the election, I'm sure but thankfully it wasn't this one
 
Does Rand Paul really want to throw away a winnable race by running against popular things like the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act?
 
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RonPaulFanInGA said:
Does Rand Paul really want to throw away a winnable race by running against popular things like the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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He is not running against them. We had a ton of purists here spasing during the Rep primary we got that put down. Now running away is not an option, you fight and frame debate.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
Does Rand Paul really want to throw away a winnable race by running against popular things like the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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If it looks like Rand Paul is running against the Civil Rights Act and the American with Disabilities Act, its because that's what his enemies want him to do. Rand needs some rest, he needs to talk to his father, he needs to go on one 1 or 2 more major news shows to finally explain his position in a better way- that he is NOT a racist but rather a defender of property rights and freedom, and then take a break from these shows and start focusing on his strategy to win the hearts and minds of Kentucky voters.

He needs to pray some more too if he hasn't been doing it much lately.
 
Oh boy.

I think Rand should've said that he'd modify the CRA & ADA instead of opposing them but I doubt that anyone could've seen those issues coming.

Rand needs all the financial and political support he can get because it's going to be an UPHILL battle.
 
I too oppose all so-called "Civil Rights" legislation that violates an individual's right to include or exclude whomever he desires, as rationally or irrationally as he desires. Maddow cannot claim to support "minority rights" while at the same time upholding the violation of individual rights (for all the reasons the Rand of the Ayn variety explained.) I'm glad Rand Paul took the right stand on this issue. If he gets damned, let it be for standing up for justice, peace, and property rights. Don't apologize or back down Rand! We all need to go out on Facebook, Twitter, comments sections, emails, call-ins, and letters and have Rand's back.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
Does Rand Paul really want to throw away a winnable race by running against popular things like the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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The thing is, this is at the core of our philosophy. Rachel was defending big government. She says big government is necessary, even, because without it people would be beaten at lunch counters. He can't compromise on this, it is absolutely at the core of everything. Private property v government-owned property. Individual rights v government control.

And besides, it is not his choice to bring these issues up, remember. Would you have him say that, yes, he supports government intrusion into private property? Completely give up on libertarianism?

I have to admit being a liberal libertarian and not entirely sure of where I stand on this issue in all cases. But I do know that if the champion of this ideology suddenly caves, that he might as well cave on other things too. Why not have him become a socialist if that's what's popular?

Don't we believe that freedom is popular? Do we? If that's true, than he did the right thing here.
 
Who cares what MSNBC viewers think? Maddow isn't a KY household name so who gives a shit. It's her job to make him look like a racist to the NY liberals who will donate to his opponent, whether it's intellectually dishonest or not. And for the record, I can't see KY voters really caring if some uber liberal doesn't like that Rand isn't 100% about forcing private property owners to kowtow to special interests. Only HuffPo and their ilk care about that nonsense. A big nothing burger for the voters that matter.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
The problem is, 90% of people think that bill expanded freedom.
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I know it's an uphill battle. But would you really have him compromise on big government? Even if that is the tactically correct thing to do, I don't think Rand is capable of something like that. He is too principled.


DeadheadforPaul:
You guys realize that the average voter is easily influenced, right?

This is BAD for us
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Yes, it really is. :( We need to support Rand more than ever, because this is all we're going to be hearing from here on out.
 
DeadheadForPaul said:
You guys realize that the average voter is easily influenced, right?

This is BAD for us
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The "average voter" isn't watching MSNBC. As if anyone is surprised that the libs are already trying to label Rand as a racist Tea Party type. That's all they've done to EVERY person that doesn't kiss Obama's ass since he was elected. It's old hat by now and Rand is way too smart for it to matter in the long run. There's a long time left before the general election and Rand will steer clear of the racism memes from here on out. Hell, I'd tell MSNBC to fuck off from here on out. They don't deserve the ratings if they aren't going to be intellectually honest about their questioning. There's no law that says Rand has to go on their partisan channel and get set up with gotcha questions week after week.
 
devil21 said:
The "average voter" isn't watching MSNBC. As if anyone is surprised that the libs are already trying to label Rand as a racist Tea Party type. That's all they've done to EVERY person that doesn't kiss Obama's ass since he was elected. It's old hat by now and Rand is way too smart for it to matter in the long run. There's a long time left before the general election and Rand will steer clear of the racism memes from here on out. Hell, I'd tell MSNBC to fuck off from here on out. They don't deserve the ratings if they aren't going to be intellectually honest about their questioning. There's no law that says Rand has to go on their partisan channel and get set up with gotcha questions week after week.
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I think they ought to have Rand do the Fox News Circuit the solidify republican, independent, and conservative democrat support in KY. Have him go on friendly shows like Hannity, Beck, Huckabee, Van Sustren, O'Reilly(I thought O'Reilly gave a tough but fair interview and Rand did well), and Fox News Sunday with Wallace. He can stay away from the GE subsidiaries known as PMSNBC and NBC(unless they are local KY affiliates).
 
Natalie said:
I don't think it is bad. I was just in the political section on yahoo answers. Some people tried to ask questions associating Rand with being a racist, and I was surprised to see most of the answers defending him. See here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...y9fUsE7i9168KGw--&paid=deleted_answer#answers

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...ifmDUMWNyai0KOQ--&paid=deleted_answer#answers
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Natalie, a large contingent on Y/A love Ron, and either love, or want to love, Rand.
 
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