RAND KILLED IT!

Bullshit. you have been in Trumps camp. Rand made his points solid however to a war eager party the message is not welcome. Now back to your trumpstering.


Never been in the Trump camp. Not ever. I think he did a lot of homework for this debate, and it showed.

Ron Paul is very passionate on fiscal issues. Some of the video of him taking Bernanke to school are classic. Rand lacks that.
 
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Ben Carson got over a million in 5$ donations after the debate and I thought he did poorly.... ;(
 
Senators did not fare well in this debate. Governors and private sector people did well.
 
No, it's true. It is something to run for President on a record when none of it has been accomplished. There were five governors up there and all of them talked about the strings attached to federal dollars. Kasich and Christie had a lot to say about that. It brought home how Congress just tosses a bone to us and expects us to believe they are really changing things. Nobody is forcing the President to do anything unpopular. Christie pushed this point. I don't like him, but I appreciated the way the governors showed how hard it was to implement changes in their own states because of the way Washington does business.

Unlike some of you, I listened to what the candidates actually said, not only what I wanted to hear.
 
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No, it's true. It is something to run for President in a record when none of it has been accomplished. There were five governors up there and all of them talked about the strings attached to federal dollars. Kasich and Christie had a lot to say about that. It brought home how Congress just tosses a bone to us and expects us to believe they are really changing things. Nobody is forcing the President to do anything unpopular. Christie pushed this point. I don't like him, but I appreciated the way the governors showed how hard it was to implement changes in their own states because of the way Washington does business.

Unlike some of you, I listened to what the candidates actually said, not only what I wanted to hear.

I listened too, but when they are saying shit scarier than Freddy Kruger half the time it's hard to take them seriously when they make a good point.

I'll admit Christie actually had a few really good answers in there, but he is way too scary on everything else to consider him a good candidate or doing well on the whole.

It's like saying Chairman Mao helped a some poor people.. who the fuck cares, he killed tens of millions of people!!
 
No, it's true. It is something to run for President in a record when none of it has been accomplished. There were five governors up there and all of them talked about the strings attached to federal dollars. Kasich and Christie had a lot to say about that. It brought home how Congress just tosses a bone to us and expects us to believe they are really changing things. Nobody is forcing the President to do anything unpopular. Christie pushed this point. I don't like him, but I appreciated the way the governors showed how hard it was to implement changes in their own states because of the way Washington does business.

Unlike some of you, I listened to what the candidates actually said, not only what I wanted to hear.

They talk about strings attached but what do they do about it ? Does the Board of Governors try to push back on the federal government or do they simply try to outcon each other in order to bring as much pork they can to their state ?
 
Well here is Associated Press' take on last night - much better than most other newsmakers' take regarding Rand. This will be published in 100's of small local media I guess (google search says so at least):

"By THOMAS BEAUMONT
Associated Press

[...]

RAND PAUL

Standing at far stage right, Paul had the best line of the night on the Iraq war and the fight against the Islamic State. "If you want boots on the ground, and you want them to be our sons and daughters, you got 14 other choices. There will always be a Bush or Clinton for you, if you want to go back to war in Iraq."

[...]"

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Rather fair and balanced short summaries of what the others did:


"DONALD TRUMP

The clear target of many of his rivals. Also challenged by the debate's moderators to demonstrate proficiency on foreign policy and national security. Challenged by Carly Fiorina for his recent comments about her appearance, and by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush for attributing Bush's support for an immigration overhaul to his wife's Mexican heritage.

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JEB BUSH

Tried unsuccessfully to elicit apology from Trump for comments about his wife. Came on strong toward the end. Won one of the few big applause moments, when he countered a criticism from Trump of his brother, former President George W. Bush, with the line: "He kept us safe."

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CARLY FIORINA

Critical of Trump's business dealings, but got ensnared in a comparison of professional records. In her first prime-time debate, Fiorina stood out, vocally asserting her ideas on foreign policy. Memorably said "women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said," responding to a question about Trump's critique of Fiorina's experience.

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SCOTT WALKER

Was among several candidates who went after Trump early in the debate, attacking him for projects that went into bankruptcy. The attack fell flat amid the vocal back-and-forth between the two. Walker was quiet during much of the second half of the debate, and echoed Marco Rubio during an opportunity to distinguish himself late on climate change.

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MARCO RUBIO

Largely stayed out of the fray with Trump. Demonstrated fluency on foreign and economic policy. Continued to season his comments with his family history as the son of a Cuban immigrant.

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MIKE HUCKABEE

Hewed close to his social conservative base, stayed away from Trump attacks, but also went 45 minutes without being asked a question. Insisted he would require Supreme Court nominees be abortion opponents, and defended the Kentucky county clerk who refused to grant marriage licenses to gay couples.

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TED CRUZ

Cruz held close to his tea party base by promising to "rip to shreds this catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal," railing against federal funding for Planned Parenthood and calling his decision to vote to confirm Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts a mistake in light of his decisions that upheld the 2010 federal health care law.

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BEN CARSON

The popular retired neurosurgeon notably questioned Trump's assertion that childhood vaccinations were a contributor to autism. He, too, was challenged by moderators to demonstrate foreign policy fluency, but was also notably left out of the questioning about the trustworthiness of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

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JOHN KASICH

Like Rubio, tried to steer clear of Trump attacks. Promoted compassion for drug offenders, recommended Mother Teresa be enshrined on U.S. currency and touted and projected a cheerfulness "where everybody's actions make a huge difference in changing the world."

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CHRIS CHRISTIE

Kept his focus on middle class voters, memorably criticizing Fiorina and Trump arguing over the business resumes, saying struggling Americans "could care less." Projected a law-and-order image: the former prosecutor opposed legalizing marijuana when some called it a state issue."

to be found i.e. :
http://www.wxow.com/story/30051364/scorecard-how-the-gop-candidates-fared-in-their-2nd-debate
 
What was so scary about prosecuting Hillary Clinton? That sounds like a good idea. Welfare money with no strings attached sounds like a good first step toward ending the Nanny state. Accommodating foreign sympathizing criminals but not accommodating the rights of our own citizens sounds like a something a Senator should be working to change, but it came out of the mouth of a governor.
 
Boots on the ground was an emotionally charged phrase based on nothing. I was not impressed because I've heard it before.
 
Boots on the ground was an emotionally charged phrase based on nothing. I was not impressed because I've heard it before.

who do you support again?...


Carly 'psycho' fiorina....

she's not a conservative.
 
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Ben Carson got over a million in 5$ donations after the debate and I thought he did poorly.... ;(

There's no way he got $5 from 200,000 people right after the debate unless he is highly organized socially by sending a text to his 500,000 supporters whom he claims has already given money. To get 40% of them to donate within hours is very hard. Just my thinking...

And if true, maybe Rand should do the same.
 
I am back in the undecided category. I want Rand to do well and win the nomination, but I don't really see this happening as long as he allows himself to be marginalized and silenced.
 
I am back in the undecided category. I want Rand to do well and win the nomination, but I don't really see this happening as long as he allows himself to be marginalized and silenced.

but carly won last night right?...why are you now un-decided?...
 
"Justice Never Sleeps" ???

What the hell kinda dumb answer was that??

Couldn't he have said something clever and funny like "Aqua Buddha"? lol
 
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