Rand is supporting gun control, I'm done supporting him

Krugminator2 said:
We don't live in tyranny. On a scale of 1-10, my satisfaction with living in America is a 9.9999. I can't imagine a better place in world history to live. I consider myself very fortunate everyday.

I would change some things like dealing with the long run fiscal issues but my complaints with US are very small on a day to day basis.
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That's where the disconnect is.

Any honest assessment of how we live, how much government is in our lives, how much it takes from us, how many of us it imprisons and kills and puts under surveillance, would conclude we live in a tyrannical state far, far worse than the one our forefathers violently rebelled against 240 years ago.

You, on the other hand, think everything is just peachy, and just want a couple of mild tweaks around the edges in order to make more money.

So it now comes as no surprise to me, that you have no idea what I'm complaining about.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
That's where the disconnect is.

Any honest assessment of how we live, how much government is in our lives, how much it takes from us, how many of us it imprisons and kills and puts under surveillance, would conclude we live in a tyrannical state far, far worse than the one our forefathers violently rebelled against 240 years ago.
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And BOOM goes the mother fucking head shot. And this, right here ^^^, is truth.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Agreed again. (huh, how about that?)

I can not fathom, in a million years, Ron voting in favor of this mess.
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No shit. Either teh Collins is trolling us or it's past time to prepare because the end times are upon us. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Thanks, I owe ya a rep.

Honestly...it's like waking up in the Twilight Zone to even have to make this argument.
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How, exactly, was life then, speaking of representation, worse than it is now? King George was a monarch but he wasn't a dictator. England had a parliament that was supposed to curtail a despot. A parliament of connected individuals. How is this ANY different to what we have today? I'm not seeing a difference. Just jingoistic terms such as "Republic" and "Representative government".

SMDH. What the fuck do you do?

The enemy of liberty does not lie on a distant shore. The Authority surrounds us. It is not a foreign construct. It has become an inherent perversion to the belief of Life, Liberty and Property.
 
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BUTSRSLY said:
DO YOU REALIZE HOW RETARDED IT LOOKS TO THE WORLD TO BE TOTALLY WITH HIM WHEN HE'S THE ANTI-CIVIL RIGHTS GUY AND TOTALLY AGAINST HIM WHEN HE'S THE ANTI GUN GUY??
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Rand Paul is against individual liberties?
 
phill4paul said:
How, exactly, was life then, speaking of representation, worse than it is now? King George was a monarch but he wasn't a dictator. England had a parliament that was supposed to curtail a despot. A parliament of connected individuals. How is this ANY different to what we have today? I'm not seeing a difference. Just jingoistic terms such as "Republic" and "Representative government".

SMDH. What the fuck do you do?

The enemy of liberty does not lie on a distant shore. The Authority surrounds us. It is not a foreign construct. It has become an inherent perversion to the belief of Life, Liberty and Property.
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It's not that bad, cmon. I mean..

So what, that between federal/state/county/city governments between them all take ~40-50% of my paycheck (it goes to good causes)












So what, that I cant reliably invest my savings because the Fed is keeping rates at 0% (They are preventing a crash, ya know)












So what, that all the money I would have saved went to the bankers (they earn their money fairly, doing banker stuff, ya know)







So what, that I cant enjoy LSD in my own home (wouldnt want to anyway)











So what, that doctors wont prescribe medication they know I need, for fear of their license being revoked (its for my safety)







So what, that I cant start a business without consulting at least 3 lawyers first (the laws exist for good reasons)






So what, that I cant be secure in my person/belongings when I drive on the road (driving is a privilege and for it I am thankful)
So what, that I cant be secure in my home because my neighbor might be a drug dealer (we'll win that war on drugs eventually, give it time)
So what, that an Officer can shoot my dog for basically no reason (its ok though: Officer Safety is of Paramount Importance)






So what, that an Officer can shoot me for basically no reason (if it makes the Officer safer I'm cool with it)




So what, that I pay ~40-50% of my paycheck in taxes, and the only thing I actually get are the roads (except toll roads those are extra)
So what, that I pay ~$100 just so that I can file my tax return (taxes are just a reality of this world get used to it)












So what, that the government knows every website and every search query I have ever used (whats the harm in that?)

















and also last one

So what, that automatic weapons are illegal (what on god's green earth could I possibly need an automatic weapon for???!?!?!!)
 
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Matt Collins said:
As mentioned in the OP, despite his sloppy messaging and despite a couple of questionable votes, nothing he has done has really risen to the level of being unconstitutional, until now.



This is false, and you are perpetuating a lie. Ron was no longer seeking the nomination at that time. He had suspended campaigning. This was tightly coordinated.
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You are one of those talkative guys? I'd be surprised if you were allowed into any confidence again. You know what they call someone who makes a habit of entering and breaking confidence?

Fisharmour nailed it. 2011 indeed. That's not to say Rand isn't the shit, but had people been more aggravated by that odious move in 2011 then he may have righted ship, and be on his way to the whitehouse today. A strategic error, thinking he could get more done inside the party than outside. But had he kept beating the drum, a seamless transition from elder to younger...well...we will never know.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
That's where the disconnect is.

Any honest assessment of how we live, how much government is in our lives, how much it takes from us, how many of us it imprisons and kills and puts under surveillance, would conclude we live in a tyrannical state far, far worse than the one our forefathers violently rebelled against 240 years ago.

You, on the other hand, think everything is just peachy, and just want a couple of mild tweaks around the edges in order to make more money.

So it now comes as no surprise to me, that you have no idea what I'm complaining about.
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true story...i always start at #taxationistheft and then realize the mess all around me, everywhere.
 
While he is the best Senator in the Senate, I demand someone who fights for my basic rights 100% of the time, not 98% of the time.
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Ha! The hell kind of perfectionist are you and can I have some of what you're having? There will never be a politician who votes the right way- nay, the way you want them to, all of the time. See, this is why people can't stand those single issue voters.
 
phill4paul said:
How, exactly, was life then, speaking of representation, worse than it is now? King George was a monarch but he wasn't a dictator. England had a parliament that was supposed to curtail a despot. A parliament of connected individuals. How is this ANY different to what we have today? I'm not seeing a difference. Just jingoistic terms such as "Republic" and "Representative government".

SMDH. What the fuck do you do?

The enemy of liberty does not lie on a distant shore. The Authority surrounds us. It is not a foreign construct. It has become an inherent perversion to the belief of Life, Liberty and Property.
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Worse, in that most of what they had to suffer under could be traced back to the King and parliament.

Most of the tyranny we suffer under is at the hands of tens of thousands of faceless, unelected, unknown, unaccountable "regulators".
 
phill4paul said:
No shit. Either teh Collins is trolling us or it's past time to prepare because the end times are upon us. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.
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But you, Mr. Mayor...Eddie...you will have saved the lives of millions of...registered voters.
 
Matt Collins said:
I didn't care for it either, but it was an insignificant issue; the actual text of it was that business with the Iranian central bank was prohibited. In other words, the Fed would not be able to fund Iran (which some have suspected it doing).
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More spin. You make up stuff and then talk about it like it's true. But continue crying about this since its something that you care about, it's not okay for Rand Paul to play politics with it. Chess Collins, I suggest you learn instead of coming here and crying because you are stuck playing checkers.

Iran unable to get life-saving drugs due to international sanctions

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians with serious illnesses have been put at imminent risk by the unintended consequences of international sanctions, which have led to dire shortages of life-saving medicines such as chemotherapy drugs for cancer and bloodclotting agents for haemophiliacs.

Western governments have built waivers into the sanctions regime – aimed at persuading Tehran to curb its nuclear programme – in an effort to ensure that essential medicines get through, but those waivers are not functioning, as they conflict with blanket restrictions on banking, as well as bans on "dual-use" chemicals which might have a military application.

"Sometimes companies agree to sell us drugs but we have no way of paying them. On one occasion, our money was in the bank for four months but the transfer repeatedly got rejected," Naser Naghdi, the director general of Darou Pakhsh, the country's biggest pharmaceutical company, told the Guardian, in a telephone interview from Tehran.

"There are patients for whom a medicine is the different between life and death. What is the world doing about this? Are Britain, Germany, and France thinking about what they are doing? If you have cancer and you can't find your chemotherapy drug, your death will come soon. It is as simple as that."
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/iran-lifesaving-drugs-international-sanctions
 
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