Rand is still our best shot for 2020.

[Swordsmyth]

Rand sold his soul.

Not at all.

Amash did.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Not at all.

Amash did.

Keep bringing the laughs.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Keep bringing the laughs.

I'll let you.

 

[eleganz]

Biden won't get the nomination. The senate impeachment hearings will make sure of that. For all the hue and cry over "How dare they impeach Trump" I am more and more convinced that Trump wants to be impeached for the sole purpose of destroying Biden. Why else would Trump have openly called for China to investigate Biden after the dems were already gunning for him over the Ukrainian phone call? He can't possibly think that China would actually do anything to help him (Trump). So it must have been for theatrical purposes. Pelosi didn't want to impeach Trump. She's being forced too. In the Senate the GOP is in control. They will get to set the rules, call the witnesses etc. It will all be about destroying what's left of Joe Biden's political career. Why do you think Michael Bloomberg is hinting about jumping into the race now? Just a few months ago that would have been unthinkable because Biden seemed unsinkable.

Seems possible but Biden was an easy target for the general, unless you mean its personal (previous vendetta, or maybe Joe really is a pedo and Trump despises him for it).

Butt plug, harris, are more formidable. They would barely even have to campaign. Americans are dying to virtue signal a first lgbt/black woman into the oval.

Exchanging Biden for Bloomberg would be a big mistake, if Bloomberg makes it, Trumps chances go down.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Rand Paul Is Still Our Best Shot For 2020, says Anti-Neocon in 2016...

There's no one else in the liberty-verse with the stature to make a serious attempt in 2020.

Will he run? I don't know, I hope so.

Can he win? Yes, but much depends on events outside our control.

If 2020 is another "throw out the beaners and bomb the ragheads" type cycle, he won't win.

If it's more like 2012, focused on economic issues, he'll have an excellent chance.

...

I wouldn't blame him if he didn't run again, but I hope he doesn't go that route.

Forever young...

Thing's have changed pretty dramatically.

Rand has become one of Trump's cronies.

He can't possibly run against Trump, any more than Cheney could have run against Bush.

They're now bosom buddies, bound for life, which is to say that the Paul phase of the liberty movement is finished.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Rand Paul Is Still Our Best Shot For 2020, says Anti-Neocon in 2016...



Forever young...

Thing's have changed pretty dramatically.

Rand has become one of Trump's cronies.

He can't possibly run against Trump, any more than Cheney could have run against Bush.

They're now bosom buddies, bound for life, which is to say that the Paul phase of the liberty movement is finished.

Or just beginning.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Or just beginning.

No, it's finished.

Ron certainly isn't running for anything ever again.

Rand probably won't run for anything ever again, including his own senate seat, but, if he does, it won't be as a (l)ibertarian.

Trump effectively neutralized Rand (or rather Rand dumbly neutralized himself).

If there's going to be a libertarian movement in the GOP in the future, it won't be lead by Rand.

 

[acptulsa]

Or just beginning.

Why are you calling Ron Paul chopped liver?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Why are you calling Ron Paul chopped liver?

I didn't.

Beginnings can take a long time.

 

[acptulsa]

I didn't.

Beginnings can take a long time.

Oh. Well. By your reckoning, Rand Paul going back to eye surgery should really get the Paul phase of the liberty movement rolling.

 

[jmdrake]

Seems possible but Biden was an easy target for the general, unless you mean its personal (previous vendetta, or maybe Joe really is a pedo and Trump despises him for it).

Butt plug, harris, are more formidable. They would barely even have to campaign. Americans are dying to virtue signal a first lgbt/black woman into the oval.

Exchanging Biden for Bloomberg would be a big mistake, if Bloomberg makes it, Trumps chances go down.

LOL @ Kamala Harris! Her campaign is already folding up shop. Tulsi Gabbard already destroyed Harris over her record as a prosecutor. Kamala Harris might even lose her senate seat over that.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/politics/kamala-harris-closing-new-hampshire-offices/index.html

Buttijudge does have a real shot at the nomination. If he gets it, it will be interesting to see how conservative black pastors justify telling their congregations to vote for an openly gay man.

 

[eleganz]

LOL @ Kamala Harris! Her campaign is already folding up shop. Tulsi Gabbard already destroyed Harris over her record as a prosecutor. Kamala Harris might even lose her senate seat over that.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/politics/kamala-harris-closing-new-hampshire-offices/index.html

Buttijudge does have a real shot at the nomination. If he gets it, it will be interesting to see how conservative black pastors justify telling their congregations to vote for an openly gay man.

She may be down now and very unlikely to gain any meaningful traction so Trump has nothing to worry about.

Doesn't change the fact that Harris is a formidable general election opponent for her skin color and gender.

During the height of Harris, Trump never mentioned her or responded to her attacks, he didn't want to give her any attention at all. He constantly gave Biden attention letting democrats believe Trump was "afraid" of Biden but he really just wanted Biden to be the opponent.

 

[dannno]

If there's going to be a libertarian movement in the GOP in the future, it won't be lead by Rand.

So you don't think that the only libertarian who has a shot at winning should run?

Whose side are you on?

 

[acptulsa]

So you don't think that the only libertarian who has a shot at winning should run?

Whose side are you on?

I didn't see him talk about what should happen in that post, only what will happen.

 

[jmdrake]

She may be down now and very unlikely to gain any meaningful traction so Trump has nothing to worry about.

Doesn't change the fact that Harris is a formidable general election opponent for her skin color and gender.

During the height of Harris, Trump never mentioned her or responded to her attacks, he didn't want to give her any attention at all. He constantly gave Biden attention letting democrats believe Trump was "afraid" of Biden but he really just wanted Biden to be the opponent.

There was a very strong anti-Kamala Harris movement in the black community from the day she announced she was running based on her actions as a prosecutor. She tried to rehabilitate herself by going on cherry picked black media such as The Breakfast Club, but then people outside the cherry picked black media busted her for lying on the show. She was done before she got started. Note that Corey Booker has gotten no traction despite being black. We'll see if Duval Patrick gets any traction.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

This might be bit too dramatic view but political damage in weeks ahead could make GOPA leadership un-electable in 2020.

[h=3]

Trump is Sunk[/h]

 

[Superfluous Man]

Doesn't change the fact that Harris is a formidable general election opponent for her skin color and gender.

I think we have adequate evidence to conclude that having a woman on a presidential ticket makes it less likely for that ticket to win, not more.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

So you don't think that the only libertarian who has a shot at winning should run?

Whose side are you on?

Rand's spent the last 3 years shilling for Trump; he's now a Trump man.

Even if you want Rand to run as a (l)libertarian, that's totally impossible.

The second Rand tries to challenge the Trumpian consensus, he'll be bombared with ads of him praising Trump.

He's done.

 

[dannno]

Rand's spent the last 3 years shilling for Trump; he's now a Trump man.

Even if you want Rand to run as a (l)libertarian, that's totally impossible.

The second Rand tries to challenge the Trumpian consensus, he'll be bombared with ads of him praising Trump.

He's done.

Can you name anything Rand has done to support Trump that is not libertarian?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Can you name anything Rand has done to support Trump that is not libertarian?

Trump has continued to grow the welfare-warfare state, which is now many billions larger than under the last Trump.

Rand has praised, for trivial things, this creature, which has signed these billed into law.