Rand Introduces the Life at Conception Act:

[itshappening]

I'd agree there. Rand will not be the evangelical candidate regardless.

Rand cannot win IA without evangelicals. So he does want to be the evangelical candidate.

The problem is he has to win NH as well. So when he lands in NH he just has to talk liberty and freedom issues. When in Iowa he can point to things like this.

This will be a fine balancing act and he needs to plot this carefully if he's to pull it off because being anti-abortion might hurt him in NH but I guess not if he doesn't talk much about it or doesn't communicate it widely. He can only dodge it for so long though especially if gets out of the primary and becomes the nominee.

 

[supermario21]

Rand will have the best message overall for Iowa and New Hampshire. I think NH is an anti-war, libertarianish state which will help him as well, and Rand will do better with mainline conservatives than Ron. Of course, that state is Christie's to lose, but Christie will do awful in Iowa. Don't forget, Pat Buchanan won the NH primary in 1996 and got 40% of the vote against an incumbent president there in 2000. I think Rand will be the Buchananite in the field.

 

[itshappening]

It will help him in SC with the social-cons too.

IA - NH - SC is a fine balancing act. He may figure he can afford to lose NH if necessary but he cannot afford to lose IA and SC.

 

[itshappening]

Rand will have the best message overall for Iowa and New Hampshire. I think NH is an anti-war, libertarianish state which will help him as well, and Rand will do better with mainline conservatives than Ron. Of course, that state is Christie's to lose, but Christie will do awful in Iowa. Don't forget, Pat Buchanan won the NH primary in 1996 and got 40% of the vote against an incumbent president there in 2000. I think Rand will be the Buchananite in the field.

Lamontage nearly beat Ayotte in the 2010 Senate primary with half the vote and I think he supported Ron. If we can get his endorsement and help it will be a big deal in NH.

 

[cheapseats]

It's not insincere...

Then he leans HARDRIGHT, not libertarian.

...it's not grandstanding...

Just PLAYING THE GAME?

...and submitting a bill doesn't really cost much money.

True, introducing legislation doesn't warrant MONEY BOMBS.

But MALARKEY, bills don't cost money. The oak of LAW comes from the acorn BILL.

The Vast Majority of Bills Go Nowhere
August 25, 2009 - by Donny Shaw

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/1180-The-Vast-Majority-of-Bills-Go-Nowhere

Then there is the matter of TIME being the scarcest of all resources. Lawmakers ARE paid (well) for their time, which can only be divvied up so many ways.

 

[cheapseats]

I am not a Rand Fan, but I do not dismiss the possibility of his one day constituting the lesser of evils.

As such, I'm pretty good about staying out of his forum. But I'm tellin' ya, hardright anti-abortion rhetoric HURT y'all in the last election and you have every reason to suppose it would do so again.

 

[talkingpointes]

The argument for courting voters is getting really fucking stale. When do we get to see actual principles? This is actually the second time he has done this. He knew the first time it wouldn't pass, and this time is no different.

Another Randstanding, he won't do anything till we cede power to him. And I'm sorry but I don't trust him.

 

[supermario21]

Ovide lost the governor's race this year to Hassan, underperforming Romney's vote total by a little more than 30K.

 

[talkingpointes]

I am not a Rand Fan, but do not dismiss the possibility of his one day constituting the lesser of evils.

As such, I'm pretty good about staying out of his forum. But I'm tellin' ya, EITHER this is an unforced error OR he is signaling that he does NOT expect to be President.

"IMHO", LOL.

Bush jr. won on saying he was going to outlaw or partially ban abortion. (with socneocons)

http://www.ontheissues.org/George_W__Bush_Abortion.htm

 

[itshappening]

In NH if we can put together a coalition of Lamontage voters, Ron Paul voters (20%), FSP supporters and new Rand Paul supporters/momentum, that is pretty much 35-40% of the vote.

In IA it would be Ron Paul voters and we'd probably need to find another 15% of the vote from somewhere (evangelicals) to give us a victory.

SC is probably our hardest state but with Davis and Bright working their base and Ron Paul votes (13%)... Hopefully Rand can land DeMint/Scott and the various congressmen (Mulvaney/whoever wins SC01). Also by then if he's doing well there will be significant momentum going into the First in the South primary.

 

[talkingpointes]

In NH if we can put together a coalition of Lamontage voters, Ron Paul voters (20%), FSP supporters and new Rand Paul supporters/momentum, that is pretty much 35-40% of the vote.

In IA it would be Ron Paulvoters and we'd probably need to find another 15% of the vote from somewhere (evangelicals) to give us a victory.

SC is probably our hardest state but with Davis and Bright working their base and Ron Paul votes... Hopefully Rand can land DeMint/Scott and the various congressmen (Mulvaney/whoever wins SC01). Also by then if he's doing well there will be significant momentum going into the First in the South primary.

Do you not remember the new rules for the caucuses ? The chair picks the candidate not the caucus goers.

 

[itshappening]

Ovide lost the governor's race this year to Hassan, underperforming Romney's vote total by a little more than 30K.

That doesn't matter, we want his primary voters

 

[Matt Collins]

That said, let's stop making a bigger deal of this than it is.

Exactly.

 

[itshappening]

It is a big deal because some of us know what the Democrat Media complex will do when/if Rand emerges from a bloody primary.

They will go after him on it and they will replay the Maddow interview a billion times a day.

for 3 months.

Fun .

 

[Matt Collins]

The argument for courting voters is getting really fucking stale. When do we get to see actual principles?

You must court voters to win, and this is a principle for Rand and most of the GOP.

 

[Matt Collins]

Then he leans HARDRIGHT, not libertarian.

Your premise is false, most libertarians are anti-abortion.

 

[talkingpointes]

From the sounds of it Has the movement completely fallen and hit it's fucking head and not remembered how the past two elections went?????

We lost the first fair and square, the second however;
WE WON AND STILL LOST -- GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. YOU'RE NOT IN THE CLUB, AND NEVER WILL BE.

 

[Matt Collins]

Yes it is but if he's the nominee he loses in a landslide spending 3 months defending it

Nope, it's expected that Republican nominees are anti-abortion, and furthermore, it probably won't even be a campaign issue when 2016 rolls around.

 

[Matt Collins]

How many times do I have to say that. There is an unequivocal definition of death. The cessation of all biological functions. No one disputes this.

But that is not the legal definition of death used to pronounce someone "dead".

 

[talkingpointes]

I can see the country being in complete shambles in 3-4 more years. And just like the rest of the world, the poor are not going to say, "maybe I should just work". No, they will demand more bread and circus till the end. That's how it works. Rand is going to be attached to the republican anchor that will be part to blame for it.