Rampage by U.S. soldier kills up to 18 Afghan civilians

[Tyler_Durden]

Why is this in grassroots?

Maybe you should motion to be a Mod.

Wouldn't happen if we weren't there under a Paul Adminstration

 

[Barrex]

This was all over the news in Croatia but I didnt wnat to post it (some people have interpreted it as att on US)... News here say that there is no plan for Afghanistan just "stay till we decide what next". Croatian soldier in Afghanistan shoot him self in the leg recently (kinda related to topic)....

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

I lived overseas for 3 years and know what you are saying.

Every American expat I know, as well as international expats, support Dr. Paul hands down. I only wish we could help our fellow Americans wake-up. I have been away from the propaganda and the MSM influence long enough to become desensitized to it.

 

[pcosmar]

Why is this in grassroots?

Was it started there? I saw it first it General Politics. Did it get moved here?
Though it may have been to give a heads up to the folks reading there.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

worst way to make the best case for the good Drs. message...too bad people still won't be able to put the two together

 

[moderate libertarian]

Later reports are putting number of civilians dead in the shooting spree at 16 including 9 children and 3 women.

This is going to be a freaking disaster if it was near an urban area.

It would not be a disaster if it were sub-urban area? Not sure what the distinction would be.

 

[Give me liberty]

Wow check out on CNN the comments were half if not all are saying its time for us to get out.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/asia/afghanistan-us-service-member/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[moderate libertarian]

WE BETTER NOT APOLOGIZE FOR THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.

I think Obama does not apologize for killing of civilians or for urination on dead bodies, not sure if it a matter of some deeply thunk policy.

 

[Voluntary Man]

Once you've broken into your neighbor's house, can you really call ANYTHING you do there "self-defense"?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Got his Combat Quals.

He'll land a job as a cop when he gets home.

 

[moderate libertarian]

Once you've broken into your neighbor's house, can you really call ANYTHING you do there "self-defense"?

That is the kind of reasoning that calls an "enhanced interrogated" suspect hanging himself at gitmo "asymetric warfare".


Not sure asymetric fascism is the root cause for such illogicalities brought into mainstream thinking but their use has increased alongwith the pace of our mental and moral decline.

 

[Voluntary Man]

I've lived abroad in various countries for over a decade now and it's humiliating as an American. Expats from countries all over the world discuss politics socially and as an American I have to accept that my country is one fucked up out of control idiotic nation that cant behave. How exactly am I supposed to be proud as an American in this day and age?

Shame is the appropriate response. It's like being the son of Adolph Hitler or the father of Ted Bundy.

In reality, though, it's more like waking up one day and realizing your entire neighborhood is populated with serial killers...only they don't even know what they are.

 

[LCG8928]

It seems like this guy just went insane, unfortunately it happens in war sometimes. He definitely should be dishonorably discharged though.

 

[nbhadja]

THEY HATE US BECAUSE WE ARE FREE. ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THIS IS ANTI-AMERICAN AND AN ISOLATIONIST.

 

[Justinfrom1776]

An apology without correcting the policy is like saying "We're sorry but fuck you guys"

 

[Give me liberty]

already posted in the general section, check back there thread op.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Could there be a cover-up? Was it a lone solider or a group of drunken soldiers?

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Could there be a cover-up? Was it a lone soldier or a group of drunken soldiers?

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

 

[moderate libertarian]

Could there be a cover-up? Was it a lone solider or a group of drunken soldiers?



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

(Reuters) - Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.
One Afghan father who said his children were killed in the shooting spree accused soldiers of later burning the bodies.

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.

The incident, one of the worst of its kind since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, is likely to deepen the divide between Washington and Kabul.

If this is true, is urinating on dead bodies or burning dead bodies a new thing for some of these alleged war criminals? Their holy books were allegdly burnt accidentally, what is the official line for burning of dead bodies/urination?

Why would they burn bodies afterwards after getting drunk and killing civilains including children and women in house? In an incidence in Iraq in Mahmudiyah killings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings ) when some soldiers were convicted of going into a house after getting drunk, killing civilians including women and children and burning bodies afterwards were also accused of raping a 14 year old girl. There is abolutely no such accusation here, what were they trying to accomplish by burning bodies if they indeed did that?

 

[Tyler_Durden]

If this is true, is urinating on dead bodies or burning dead bodies a new thing for some of these alleged war criminals? Their holy books were allegdly burnt accidentally, what is the official line for burning of dead bodies/urination?

Let's hope cameras were switched off and no video tapes were made.

One soldier could kill over a dozen and injure others, but it doesn't make sense how that one soldier could burn them too. I am apt to believe the eyewitness reports of a group of drunken soldiers. When I was in the Marines, we did some crazy shit when we were drunk......this is bad news.