Raise your hand if you've changed your political ideology recently

Great thread!

I looked up some of my old posts from the past,to determine my change of heart.
I used to hang out on the Excite board political section.



10/27/04 03:37pm Reply
I kept my promise to my state elected leaders this morning,i voted againsed them.They recently stripped another right from me,and as i promised them in my letters,they lost my vote that they have enjoyed for more than 20 years.


During the past few years,i have been wondering what a conservative is nowadays.It seems that the definition has changed.I no longer see "conservatives"talking about fiscal responsibility.I no longer see "conservatives" fighting againsed government intrusion into our lives,and systematicly stripping away our rights.Instead i see "conservatives" supporting huge spending,huge governmental growth,more governmental intrusion,and stripping away my freedoms.I see conservatives advocating nation building,and conquesting to promote THIER idea of freedom across the globe.The only conservative values i see anymore is the idea that schools must be accountable for thier functions,and lower taxes.


Last year i left my beloved Republican party because of what i percieved as the new conservative movement,and the growing power of the religious right.How in the heck could a conservative ever create such an abomination as the "Patriot Act"?To me,the party has abandoned traditionalists like myself,and became the party of anger,and moral outrage.I still agreed with the GOP platform,but,that too seemed to be abandoned.Instead of balancing the issue of church,and state,conservatives seem to embrace the idea of a merger.Take a look at the faith based initiative.By allowing church into state affairs,we run the risk,and high probability of a disasterous historical repeat.This of course is the agenda of the religious right,as they are not a collection of various beliefs,rather they are of one mind,and church.End result,Inqusition time again.


I support the war on terror,but i no longer support the way we are going about it.We are in effect,reinacting the crusades under the guise of "spreading GOD's gift of freedom throughout the world".My opinion on this has changed in the past few weeks.I used to support the President in this enterprise,but a few free thinkers on this board have shown me a different perspective.I pray that we stop with Iraq,i really do.


As a conservative,i am ashamed that i help bring into being NAFTA,that did nothing but hurt our American workers,and small businesses.I am ashamed that i blindly supported candidates that stripped me of my freedoms,simply because they hid under the guise of "conservative".I am ashamed that i didnt realize that my party had been taken over by extremeists long before i did.


I guess i am not a conservative after all,i voted Libertarian.
 
I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004... I always considered myself a fiscal conservative and so I had to vote for Bush (I thought)... I was pretty pissed at him about the Medicare/Medicaid thing and how he had not finished the war in 2004 and the deficit spending...however I thought he had just done it to get re-elected and would go back to his conservative ways in his last term... all I can say is I have learned from this mistake... this will be my first third party vote for president. Both Gore and Kerry would have been more fiscally conservative than Bush the fiscal socialist.

I learned about Paul this year after supporting Romney in the primaries for his business background. I didn't watch the debates, but found him while searching for a third party candidate to support. Now I am a hardcore small "l" libertarian.
 
It all started with Jessie Ventura

It all started with Jessie Ventura, he kind of woke me up to the fact that there were more than 2 parties.. and that you didnt have to be with a party at all to be good, Ventura was kind of odd, minimal fiscally, semi socialistic, yet no pork and BS, it worked well, I voted for him for Gov. of MN , and he won, and did a decent job. After that it seems I always looked for the other candidates before I looked at the main stream medias candidates.

I considered my self a independant, libritarian, democrat before learning of Ron Paul, I leaned Libritarian and Independant, but also voted democratic many times as it was better than the alternitive.. you know the lesser of the evils thing..

I woke up after Ventura got in office.

Now I vote for the best candidate no matter what party or organization there with.
 
I was originally into Barack Obama until I saw Ron Paul featured on Bill Maher. Fell in love with him after that and expanded my knowledge toward politics.
 
There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

people dont trust barr because he hasn't done anything to make people trust him. it has nothing to do with simply hes changed his ideology.

no ive not changed my ideology recently
 
Voted Libertarian since 1988. Took one for the team and switched to R to vote for RP this primary season.
 
There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

I voted for Harry Browne. So, what do you call recent?

I'll NEVER vote for a drug warrior like Bob Barr. But I might have to vote for the Libertarian Party this year since Barr is trying to destroy it. :mad:
 
Hahaha, good thread. Here's an old message board post of mine, from 11/18/05:

My view on Iraq is that though the strike on Saddam was somewhat pre-emptive, we did have the problem of his likelihood of going back into full-scale weapons manufacture once the embargo was lifted. Lets remember that peaceniks were whining about lifting the embargo, at the same time Saddam was disobeying the terms of his 1993 surrender, a difficult stalemate that could have lasted how long? Also, Saddam was directing a lot of anti-US hatred, as was Iran who seems to have STFU for the time being. He was also paying $25,000 rewards to families of suicide bombers in Israel, which is our ally; these bombings have stopped with the toppling of Saddam.

I personally feel that if Saddam were allowed to gestate, we would ultimately see more losses of American lives, and countless losses of life among US friendlies in the region. Possibly, Iraq would form a bloc with neighboring states for purposes of increased aggression. These people are still POd about the fall of the Ottoman empire!

As it is, we have gained respect in the ME (not to be too ethnographical, but Arabs respect power), have hopes of growing an ally in the form of a glittering new democratic republic, and we have an unimpeded source of oil. Not too shabby, IMO. For the record, let me state that we must reduce our dependence on foreign oil and other imports, lest someone misapprehend that I think oil is worth going to war for.
 
Former conservative. Almost instantly leaped to being an anarcho-capitalist, with a quick change into a Voluntaryist. Then moved on to being a Minarchist and have finally arrived at being a Classical Liberal.

This is all within the past year and a half.
 
yes, i have now moved from unprincipled (voting) anarchist, to a principled (non-voting) anarchist.
 
Former conservative. Almost instantly leaped to being an anarcho-capitalist, with a quick change into a Voluntaryist. Then moved on to being a Minarchist and have finally arrived at being a Classical Liberal.

This is all within the past year and a half.

dude, better fix the headline on your site before i gave to put it in my sig.

;):):D
 
I was a neo-con deciding if I should vote for Giuliani in spite of his social liberalism. Then I saw Paul take him on over the causes of 9/11. At first I sided with Giuliani, but when i read more about it, I realized RP was right.
 
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