Radio- I had a 15min conversation about Ron Paul this morning... (Audio)

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with local radio personalty Jack Riccardi 550AM-KTSA - San Antonio


http://www.ktsa.com/pages/5996495.php


Click on the link and listen to the debate. Click - Jack Riccardi talks with listener/friend of the show Carlos about Ron Paul.


I call into his show couple times a week. And he knows I am a Ron Paul guy.
But Im a nice Ron Paul guy so he lets me on. HA
Jack also is a supporter of Austrian Economics.


Tell me what you think!!! I'm interested in your thoughts.
 
I think you could have done better. When Riccardi says Ron Paul has these whacked out and crazy views on 9/11, you should have mentioned that Ron Paul gets his position on Iraq from our own CIA and the 9/11 Commission Report. Riccardi admits he hasn't even looked into this stuff that closely.
 
He was handing you an argument - "The US is not Iraq"... "A man who burned the fingers off of children to make their parents talk".

Forgive me for the armchair remark: I would have asked who supported Iraq in the 80's, up to a week prior to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? Did he know that the US supported Saddam, and helped keep him in power? Just as we do lots of crazy dictators (ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST)? For the parents of children with burnt off fingers, how do they perceive the US? How would the radio host perceive a foreign nation who supported torture of this kind to his own children? If someone tortured your kids and was getting their support from China, would you advocate flying planes into their buildings? That's the point that Ron is trying to drive home. Its not only that our foreign policy is unsustainable, its that we are reckless in the propping up of foreign dictators! There is blowback because of it - those arent just the words of Dr Paul, that's straight from our own CIA.

Sorry, I'm sure you were on the spot, and you did well considering. Its just a difficult thing to counter decades of mind control.
 
Wow Riccardi shows a heck of a double standard talking about foreign policy. But this is the perfect case study in what we're facing with the electorate in trying get Ron Paul elected. They like PART of the message, but they definitely don't like the messenger.
 
Yup he is right when he says "Dr. Paul needs to keep some ideas to himself". Makes him look more like a teacher and instead of someone who is trying to win the election
 
smartguy911 said:
Yup he is right when he says "Dr. Paul needs to keep some ideas to himself". Makes him look more like a teacher and instead of someone who is trying to win the election
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Isn't it sad though that we admit that electing a President is a GAME and that we need the candidates to play that game and play it well to get elected? That is disgusting to me.
 
Well it sounds like the radio host thinks that if they enemy says something about why they are coming after us that they can't be trusted to be telling the truth. As long as people like him can blow air the words they say will have power.

We are not thinking like the people think from listening to this kind of comme3ntary. You have to know that they want to stand by what they have said in the past. Changing someones mind is very difficult.

Right now I work with a hoarder who has way too much stuff for her house.she cannot admit that she needs to get rid of 50% of her stuff. she thinks of all kinds of reasons to hang on to the most non used of items. she is stubborn as anyone I have ever known. It is very circular she pays me to do work that she will not let me do.

It is crazy just like talking to that host. He cannot accept that our actions have something to do with our wars. I think even if his house got blown up and all were killed he would still not want to look at his enemies reason and only want revenge. Revenge is a deeply held position for many people concerning the war we our fighting. Some people don't want to ask why won't ask why and if they hear why they reject it because they are so focused on revenge.

Ron is doing good he is making some people think it is good and I know something good is going to come our way. He believes in the golden rule of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. He has stood up to terrible odds, disrespect, but has not changed his positions . A lot of people out of whatever cannot understand the we reality that we perceive. some people can't see how they crush others under foot with their competition, and vengeful ways.
 
TXcarlosTX said:
well i wasn't trying to argue with the guy but have a discussion. his show is listened to by over 1million people in south TEXAS. so to get 14min is good. im sure i made some good points. fuck! ha. can i get a little credit.
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You definitely held your own. Much better than I could have done. However, I'm not sure if I was an average voter, how I would view the discussion. I sent your boy an email, giving him my 2 cents. :)
 
TXcarlosTX said:
well i wasn't trying to argue with the guy but have a discussion. his show is listened to by over 1million people in south TEXAS. so to get 14min is good. im sure i made some good points. fuck! ha. can i get a little credit.
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Damn. If a million people listen to his show, I don't understand why we can't get Ron Paul, himself, on the show to discuss this issue. Riccardi agrees with Ron Paul 90 percent of the time. It came across that he just needs a little education on foreign policy.
 
I stopped listening half way through because I couldn't bare to listen anymore.

Why in the world did you concede so easily on Ron being wrong about what he said?! The guy says that you can't compare innocent deaths of civilians in Iraq to innocent deaths in USA if someone else did the same to us because of who ran that country and you don't even attempt to argue back? WTF? To me that's where you lost the whole argument and your attempt of "oh ignore that one little thing because he'd do so much good for the economy" was super transparent and super weak!

Ron is right on foreign policy. If you're going to argue and defend and promote him, do not ever again concede that point. EVER!

When he said the USA and Iraq can't be compared you should have said: "so our innocent life is more valuable than innocent life around the world? does it really matter who was their government if they are INNOCENT CIVILIANS? What business of ours was it to try and remove their government? How do we know that all these deaths and suffering was worth it? Maybe these innocent civilians that our policies have killed would have preferred to stay alive and live under a dictator instead being killed by our bombs, just MAYBE?! just maybe they would have figured out a way to get rid of their oppressive government without developing hatred for a foreign nation that bombed them and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the process which then motivated these same civilians to join radical groups and hijack planes and fly them into our buildings?!"
 
Cap'n Crunk said:
I think you could have done better. When Riccardi says Ron Paul has these whacked out and crazy views on 9/11, you should have mentioned that Ron Paul gets his position on Iraq from our own CIA and the 9/11 Commission Report. Riccardi admits he hasn't even looked into this stuff that closely.
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I agree. One other thing that should have been brought up is that Dr. Paul DID vote in favor of attacking Afghanistan, negating any opinion that his views on what motivated the terrorists would cause him to be weak. Quite the contrary, following his understanding is likely to REDUCE the chances of the need for future conflict.
 
hazek said:
I stopped listening half way through because I couldn't bare to listen anymore.

Why in the world did you concede so easily on Ron being wrong about what he said?! The guy says that you can't compare innocent deaths of civilians in Iraq to innocent deaths in USA if someone else did the same to us because of who ran that country and you don't even attempt to argue back? WTF? To me that's where you lost the whole argument and your attempt of "oh ignore that one little thing because he'd do so much good for the economy" was super transparent and super weak!

Ron is right on foreign policy. If you're going to argue and defend and promote him, do not ever again concede that point. EVER!

When he said the USA and Iraq can't be compared you should have said: "so our innocent life is more valuable than innocent life around the world? does it really matter who was their government if they are INNOCENT CIVILIANS? What business of ours was it to try and remove their government? How do we know that all these deaths and suffering was worth it? Maybe these innocent civilians that our policies have killed would have preferred to stay alive and live under a dictator instead being killed by our bombs, just MAYBE?! just maybe they would have figured out a way to get rid of their oppressive government without developing hatred for a foreign nation that bombed them and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the process which then motivated these same civilians to join radical groups and hijack planes and fly them into our buildings?!"
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but its his show. his home court. he can just hang up. i have to play the game a little. i have to balance trying to give some points out. if i try to argure like you want me to then ill never get on the radio. they wont even take my call.

play da game yo!
 
Sorry dude, but I really wish I could have been in your shoes because I think although you made some good points, it really fell short of defending Paul. You even said "Yeah..." after this guy said he was unelectable.
 
Don't let them get you down, Carlos. Could it have been better? Sure, it always could, but don't forget, the host is a professional speaker and you are not and if you are anything like most people, you're at least a little nervous about being on the air and that makes it more difficult to sound really good. Try to get on the air again; practice makes perfect!! :)
 
Good conversation, Carlos. Great job on pointing out how the debt situation all ties in with our brazen foreign policy. Once one logically thinks that over they will come to the same conclusion as Paul. Liberty, peace, prosperity are all one package. And to his pointing out that you got into politics because of Ron Paul and that somehow means that you're naive because of it, is a total misnomer. We're with him because Paul syncronizes with OUR OWN core ideas and values that we have already come to learn and have taken to heart.

It could've been anyone else saying those things, but it's him. If there weren't a candidate like Paul around, I am sure the majority of supporters would still be searching for that unique individual and not settling for less. I am 30 years old and have never voted in a Presidential election, and I am still proud of that achievement.

Vote for the candidate, not the party.
 
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