Rachel Maddow's attacks seem strangely personal

[Warlord]

Rubin and Maddow are like rabid dogs. Best to ignore them, They have zero audience/influence

 

[Thanatos]

I have not looked into all the details of this matter yet, but I did watch the exchanges that were reported by Time Magazine and wondered a couple of things when watching them. First, what is the most rhetorically strategic way that Rand could have approached this issue? Second, was an adversarial response the most effective and rhetorically sophisticated strategy? As someone mentioned above, attention is the name of the game for the MSM so why play into the games by responding in a disturbed or angered way? Why not say something like the following: ""I know that Rachel Maddow has the interest of the American people and my own interest at heart and I appreciate her willingness to report on this important issue. I hope I still have the opportunity to continue to discuss important issues with her, issues such as poverty, civil liberties, transparency." It seems to me this message of humility is extremely persuasive in these situations and could go a long way in defusing the issue.

 

[Warlord]

Welcome to the forum Thanatos

 

[phill4paul]

I have not looked into all the details of this matter yet, but I did watch the exchanges that were reported by Time Magazine and wondered a couple of things when watching them. First, what is the most rhetorically strategic way that Rand could have approached this issue? Second, was an adversarial response the most effective and rhetorically sophisticated strategy? As someone mentioned above, attention is the name of the game for the MSM so why play into the games by responding in a disturbed or angered way? Why not say something like the following: ""I know that Rachel Maddow has the interest of the American people and my own interest at heart and I appreciate her willingness to report on this important issue. I hope I still have the opportunity to continue to discuss important issues with her, issues such as poverty, civil liberties, transparency." It seems to me this message of humility is extremely persuasive in these situations and could go a long way in defusing the issue.

^^^ Someone hire this poster. Welcome aboard Thanatos.

 

[RM918]

Rand definitely screwed this whole thing up and should've been more careful with his sourcing stuff before this. Those two things aside, the opposition is CLEARLY blowing the whole thing way out of proportion in order to hurt him. He screwed up, but the response is far greater than it should have been because they smell blood in the water.

They're acting horrified at this whole thing while they are actively supporting a man who kills children. I don't even mean in that cutesy pro-lifer sort of way, I mean he literally fucking bombs kids. Anyone who considers this some sort of serious flaw that disqualifies him from running for office is an excellent argument against democracy, as it proves people don't care about real issues and just care about petty bullshit like this.

And guys, is it possible to avert the lesbian cracks when talking about Maddow? It has absolutely no bearing on the fact she's a bought and paid for shill for the Blue Team and making the comments only lowers you into the shithole she's arguing from. There are PLENTY of things to criticize her on rather than low-class grade school shit like calling her ugly or a big ol' lesbo.

 

[acptulsa]

Her boss has been pressuring her for years to discredit this threat to the profitability of the status quo, but Rand Paul has simply not given her any ammunition to use in discrediting him in any substantive way. This is, therefore, her first opportunity to do what her boss sees as her job. Of course she's out to get everything she can out of it.

Fortunately, 2016 is still some distance away.

And guys, is it possible to avert the lesbian cracks when talking about Maddow? It has absolutely no bearing on the fact she's a bought and paid for shill for the Blue Team and making the comments only lowers you into the shithole she's arguing from. There are PLENTY of things to criticize her on rather than low-class grade school shit like calling her ugly or a big ol' lesbo.

Yes, please. Our best bet for damage control does not involve getting 'strangely personal' ourselves. We do much better when we don't stoop to the mainstream media's level.

 

[Warlord]

Rand definitely screwed this whole thing up and should've been more careful with his sourcing stuff before this. Those two things aside, the opposition is CLEARLY blowing the whole thing way out of proportion in order to hurt him. He screwed up, but the response is far greater than it should have been because they smell blood in the water.

They're acting horrified at this whole thing while they are actively supporting a man who kills children. I don't even mean in that cutesy pro-lifer sort of way, I mean he literally fucking bombs kids. Anyone who considers this some sort of serious flaw that disqualifies him from running for office is an excellent argument against democracy, as it proves people don't care about real issues and just care about petty bullshit like this.

And guys, is it possible to avert the lesbian cracks when talking about Maddow? It has absolutely no bearing on the fact she's a bought and paid for shill for the Blue Team and making the comments only lowers you into the shithole she's arguing from. There are PLENTY of things to criticize her on rather than low-class grade school shit like calling her ugly or a big ol' lesbo.

Good point on what they support. See this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/new-book--oba...really-good-at-killing-people--144734667.html

 

[Thanatos]

Thanks Warlord.

 

[Thanatos]

Thanks phill4paul.

 

[Thanatos]

And guys, is it possible to avert the lesbian cracks when talking about Maddow? It has absolutely no bearing on the fact she's a bought and paid for shill for the Blue Team and making the comments only lowers you into the shithole she's arguing from. There are PLENTY of things to criticize her on rather than low-class grade school shit like calling her ugly or a big ol' lesbo.

I agree. I think in the long run this type of response is counter-productive.

 

[politics]

It all begun when Rand begun his campaign about the Audit the Fed and the nomination of the new chairwoman.
That was the moment, and obviusly MSM made it great, more people is talking about this issue and less is doing it about the Audit the fed case

 

[XTreat]

Possibly a bit miffed that he is demonstrably more anti-war/non-interventionist/anti-MIC/pro-civil liberties/anti-drug war/ than her heroes Obama and Hillary and it makes her lash out.


Edit: also anti-banker/wall street.

 

[Todd]

I think it is her internal conflict lashing out at Rand. I think that hair of his makes her want to renounce her current lifestyle and bow-chick-a-bow-wow. But of course, she can't. Hence her anger.

A ScientificWAGuess

But seriously. I've felt like there is some personal animosity too.

You are close. She's just jealous she can't get her hair to do what Rand's does.

She should have stuck with her highschool look.

 

[AlexAmore]

Rachel without any make up on (she forgot to shave that morning).