Question to purists- Do you want progress?

[presence]

Neither did he express a desire to build a wall around his own house, using his own money, to keep his own stuff safe.

Are you promoting self responsibility on RPF? That's uncalled for. We demand tax funded government solutions to our problems around here.

 

[otherone]

Are you promoting self responsibility on RPF? That's uncalled for. We demand tax funded government solutions to our problems around here.

Wake up, Purist.
It takes a village to protect muh culture.

 

[The Gold Standard]

Wake up, Purist.
It takes a village to protect muh culture.

Out of rep.

 

[CCTelander]

Out of rep.

Covered.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Trump will crack down on illegal immigration and finally end open borders. No value in that? .

Nope. No value at all. See the site mission statement.

You're not just less pure than us. You are pursuing a mission that is totally opposed to ours.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I think a Trump presidency is in that direction. If it were Romney or McCain I really wouldn't think so

You must be pretty liberal then.

 

[HVACTech]

Is your definition of "purist" someone who doesn't like Trump?

This entire post is retarded. There are very few actual purists here. Plz delete this garbage thread.

substitute the word "purist" for "Anarchist" and it will make more sense to you. Anarchists dont like anything.
(even you)

 

[kcchiefs6465]

substitute the word "purist" for "Anarchist" and it will make more sense to you. Anarchists dont like anything.
(even you)

Those damn pesky anarchists. Always advocating people mind their own business and keep their own resources and shit.

Fucking barbarians.

 

[Ender]

Those damn pesky anarchists. Always advocating people mind their own business and keep their own resources and $#@!.

$#@!ing barbarians.

LOL!

And- yep.

 

[Jingles]

You must be pretty liberal then.

I don't see how that makes me liberal, but whatever.

 

[CCTelander]

Those damn pesky anarchists. Always advocating people mind their own business and keep their own resources and shit.

Fucking barbarians.

Really. Who the hell do they think they are advocating against shoving guns in people's faces to get them to behave in the prescribed manner. Savages.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I don't see how that makes me liberal, but whatever.

Since Trump is so far to the left of Romney and McCain and you think he's better than them.

 

[HVACTech]

Those damn pesky anarchists. Always advocating people mind their own business and keep their own resources and $#@!.

$#@!ing barbarians.

how is an Anarchist... NOT a "purist" sir?

perchance, thou will enlighten me?

 

[Jingles]

Since Trump is so far to the left of Romney and McCain and you think he's better than them.

I really don't share your perspective in that regard. In terms of some social issues, I can see that. But I've never been religious conservative so I don't see that as a problem. In my view, Trump (to me at least) is kind of a Pat Buchanan. I don't agree with him on everything, but I think he has the interests of the nation at heart (a la I don't like protectionism, but I do dislike NAFTA, TPP, and such). But I'm glad Trump isn't a raving neocon. I'm happy he has a great interest in the American worker and trying to restore prosperity to those that are willing to work and stand up for those that kick their ass every day to make a living whilst we have welfare slaves living off the state.

And I like his stance on Illegal immigration. How the hell illegal immigrants VOTE in our elections is beyond my comprehension. Let me just sneak my way into the UK/Canada/Aussieland and some how vote... Like, really? Why the hell would we ever support people coming into this nation collecting free welfare/healthcare WHO DON'T EVEN COME HER LEGALLY!? You can either have open borders or a welfare state... Currently we have both. Big part of our debt there.

I think the greatest thing about him is that he isn't bought by companies or the political establishment. If nothing else he is a giant middle finger to the lobbyists, corporate interests, and etc... that have so much influence in our nation's politics.

I just view (currently) that Trump can have a positive influence on some policies we wish to move forward (he criticizes The Fed for example, and go back and watch him attack "JEB!" on the Iraq war).

If he doesn't do anything we like and goes against us, I will certainly be the first to attack him and go against him. I guess I'm just more of an optimist when it comes to Trump because I see him a just in general a great human being (Especially living on the East coast in the Tri-state area. He helps so many people and hires all he can.)

 

[Superfluous Man]

I really don't share your perspective in that regard. In terms of some social issues, I can see that. But I've never been religious conservative so I don't see that as a problem. In my view, Trump (to me at least) is kind of a Pat Buchanan. I don't agree with him on everything, but I think he has the interests of the nation at heart (a la I don't like protectionism, but I do dislike NAFTA, TPP, and such). But I'm glad Trump isn't a raving neocon. I'm happy he has a great interest in the American worker and trying to restore prosperity to those that are willing to work and stand up for those that kick their ass every day to make a living whilst we have welfare slaves living off the state.

And I like his stance on Illegal immigration. How the hell illegal immigrants VOTE in our elections is beyond my comprehension. Let me just sneak my way into the UK/Canada/Aussieland and some how vote... Like, really? Why the hell would we ever support people coming into this nation collecting free welfare/healthcare WHO DON'T EVEN COME HER LEGALLY!? You can either have open borders or a welfare state... Currently we have both. Big part of our debt there.

I think the greatest thing about him is that he isn't bought by companies or the political establishment. If nothing else he is a giant middle finger to the lobbyists, corporate interests, and etc... that have so much influence in our nation's politics.

I just view (currently) that Trump can have a positive influence on some policies we wish to move forward (he criticizes The Fed for example, and go back and watch him attack "JEB!" on the Iraq war).

If he doesn't do anything we like and goes against us, I will certainly be the first to attack him and go against him. I guess I'm just more of an optimist when it comes to Trump because I see him a just in general a great human being (Especially living on the East coast in the Tri-state area. He helps so many people and hires all he can.)

You have it almost backwards. Yes, Trump is more liberal than they are on social issues. But Buchanan sure isn't. Buchanan is a social conservative and fiscal moderate. And Trump is even more blatantly liberal on fiscal issues than he is on social ones. His trade and immigration stances that you like so much are also blatantly leftist, much more so than McCain's relatively more free market approach in particular. Trump is by far the most liberal Republican presidential candidate in history in both fiscal and social issues (using liberal in the modern American sense, not the classical sense).

To say nothing of Ron Paul, who makes McCain look liberal even on immigration.

 

[osan]

How do you expect to make progress in America?

You have neglected to define your terms.

FAIL.

Your strategy seems to be convert everyone to become paleoconservatives or libertarians and then elect an entire government full of Ron Pauls. Does that really sound realistic to you?

You speak as if to a block of clones.

FAIL.

You are missing the big picture. America was not stolen in one day and will not be taken back in one day either. It was stolen incrementally. There wasn't just a surge of globalist wrong on everything politicians that suddenly were elected and took control of the government. They slowly shifted the political landscape. They didn't instantly create the Fed, end the gold standard, create heavy taxes, police the world, create the war on drugs all in one swoop.

You belabor the obvious, as if to instruct a roomful of halfwits and imbeciles.

By not understanding the value of electing politicians who at least are good in certain areas, only supporting Ron Paul purity level candidates, and equating politicians who have some good views in critical areas with bad on everything politicians (like equating trump to bush or hillary) you are making your efforts in vain. Your strategy is awful.

You presume too much.

Thankfully most people don't have this view, which is why there is a surge of support for anti-trade anti-globalist and anti-immigration politicians etc in Europe and America. Brexit and the future certain fall of the European Union would not be possible with your mindset.

The "mindset" you apparently wish to give praise is precisely that which brought us to this sorry pass. Perhaps if you thought a bit prior to actuating your keyboard...

I supported Rand Paul for president first. He lost and normally I wouldn't have voted after that for the big 2 candidates...but I voted for Trump because he is not some puppet shill like McCain Romney or Bush. He has some good views.

Trump remains to be proven. I would not be too fast to condemn or prepare to get on my knees, were I you.

Hillary wants to antagonize Russia and basically build up a massive conflict further while Trump is friendly with Russia. Its possible the election outcome may have prevented a war. Is there no value in that for you?

This is the brand of semi-coherent sentence that leads one to wonder whether you are a heavy substance abuser.

Trump will crack down on illegal immigration and finally end open borders. No value in that? What about establishing voter ID laws? Huge improvements in free trade deals at min or repealing them? No value? Cutting taxes? Cutting welfare? Ending Obamacare (even if you think he will replace it with bad at the very least he will open competition by ending state lines, repealing the individual mandate etc). What about how Politicians like Bush and Hillary directly fund terrorists, while trump will end that. At the very least foreign aid will be cut down and other countries will have to pay us for any services. At best he will slash foreign aid significantly....will crack down on islam... campaign finance reform.... This can go on and on.

In football terms you are basically trying to throw a hailmary every drive , going for it on 4th down every time and only accepting drives that end up with 7 points with no regard to field position, time of possession, field goals, plays that go for intermediate or short gains.. going for that madden bomb on every play.

Some of the hardcore purists (not many though) are so extreme that they refuse to even support Rand Paul.

You don't seem to know how to get things done.

Your entire post hints at a point, yet never comes to one. I could spend the evening guessing what it might be, but I have better things to do with my time, like set my hair on fire.

These tentative jabs you take get you nowhere. When you finally decide what it is you seek to say, please do come back and visit us again.

 

[Jingles]

You have it almost backwards. Yes, Trump is more liberal than they are on social issues. But Buchanan sure isn't. Buchanan is a social conservative and fiscal moderate. And Trump is even more blatantly liberal on fiscal issues than he is on social ones. His trade and immigration stances that you like so much are also blatantly leftist, much more so than McCain's relatively more free market approach in particular. Trump is by far the most liberal Republican presidential candidate in history in both fiscal and social issues (using liberal in the modern American sense, not the classical sense).

To say nothing of Ron Paul, who makes McCain look liberal even on immigration.

I think you and I just have a different definitions of "liberal" and you are trying to charge me on that. I guess we just have to agree to disagree here because we aren't connecting on any much common ground because of how differently we are interrupting the situation. Our perspectives our simply different here.

 

[pcosmar]

Am I a purist?

I have never thought so of myself.

Been here a while,, Talked to Ron. He did seem to represent me. (better than others)

I hold certain truths to be self evident..

Does that make me a purest?

If so I will give answer.