Question: Surviving with no Insurance?

[thoughtomator]

The trick will be how to allow deflation to occur

Step 1: Stop force-feeding the medicalization cult

 

[Keith and stuff]

And yeah, we were planning on moving and not getting real jobs. We are IT guys and can always find jobs (IT Pro's are a valuable asset to have)

Why not move and get IT jobs and plan and slowly start your business on the side? That way you will have health insurance or if you just do short-term contracts, significant pay so that you may be able to afford the meds without insurance. Make a goal of it, of growing the business so large that 1 or both of you eventually quit working for a company and focus full time on your own business.

BTW, there is lots of IT related work in NH. It's mostly centered around Manchester, Nashua, Salem, Portsmouth, Derry, other towns and cities on both sides of the NH/MA border, in the cities north of Boston and the rest of the greater Boston area.

 

[MelissaWV]

Revisiting an earlier point in the thread about not using Metformin anymore...

I used to take ActosPlus for DMII (which I had since around age 7, but was not diagnosed with until way later in life, so I already had a lot of issues and damage). I also had to take various and sundry things for liver issues. I really won't get into it, but over time the drugs I was supposed to be taking read like a nightmare --- a very expensive nightmare.

Cinnamon works very well with some people for DMII. It absolutely helps me regulate my sugar numbers, and though I still have spikes and valleys, I feel it's far better than doing nothing, and I notice my readings are better. As a bonus, taking cinnamon doesn't really have any negative side effects compared to all those nasty pills I was supposed to take and, eventually, the insulin I would be injecting. I have not noticed as much neuropathy or other peripheral issues since switching.

Milk Thistle works very well with some people for liver issues. Again, there are not the nasty side effects, and you can tell within a cycle or two of labs at your doctor whether or not it's doing anything.

You may not have the same results, but you would have nothing to lose with it unless you are already on insulin (stopping insulin to pop cinnamon pills is obviously not wise).

 

[Tinnuhana]

thoughtomator: exactly. That's WHAT. Bot HOW, say, would President Ron Paul approach it to get results from Congress, etc. I'd be interested in hearing some ideas on that...too busy/lazy these days to spend much time at mises.org.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Also there are dental svgs plans that run about $11 a month that save up to half on fillings and crowns.

Indeed. I get dental coverage through my dentist. Way cheaper than other insurers.

 

[Created4]

What irritates me about people with no insurance is that if they get into an accident and cannot afford to pay its the taxpayers who have to pay for them (since we just can't let them die).

This is just not true. There are many of us who are NOT poor and choose to no use insurance, or even the medical system much. If one pays out of pocket, there are ways to pay off a debt in a catastrophic event, just the same as people usually need to make payments on other kinds of debt, such as paying off a house or car. It does not have to be passed on to the tax payer, just like toxic mortgages don't have to be passed on to the tax payer. But the government does it anyway. So don't get angry at the people who don't want to participate in the system. The government feels obligated to pass these burdens on to everyone, and that is what has to change.