Question for anarchists - How would you handle national defense?

[Domalais]

You've got this idea that anarchists can't form significantly large organizations. Simply not true.

Did you not read the second half of that sentence? Are you ignorant of the vast amount of money, intelligence, and training the United States gave the Mujaheddin?

 

[No Free Beer]

Let me ask you something, how is private property, private property without contracts? Without a set of laws supporting those contracts?

I am sorry, but anarchy doesn't work.

 

[TheTexan]

Did you not read the second half of that sentence? Are you ignorant of the vast amount of money, intelligence, and training the United States gave the Mujaheddin?

Do you realize that we don't live in huts and can actually afford to buy those weapons, intelligence, training, etc ourselves?

 

[otherone]

....and the sneetches get banished to political philosophy once't again.

 

[TheTexan]

....and the sneetches get banished to political philosophy once't again.

the hot topics of real politics - where threads go to die.

 

[onlyrp]

Let me ask you something, how is private property, private property without contracts? Without a set of laws supporting those contracts?

I am sorry, but anarchy doesn't work.

tell that to the Amish.

 

[No Free Beer]

I love how the anarchists in here all support Ron Paul, who is not an anarchist.

I also find it funny how all the open border people in here support Ron Paul, when he himself is not an Open Border Agent.

 

[No Free Beer]

tell that to the Amish.

Are they not supported by our Constitution?

 

[otherone]

I love how the anarchists in here all support Ron Paul, who is not an anarchist.

I also find it funny how all the open border people in here support Ron Paul, when he himself is not an Open Border Agent.

Don't forget the funny atheists....and funny pro-choice folk....

 

[TheTexan]

I love how the anarchists in here all support Ron Paul, who is not an anarchist.

That's actually debatable. However, he is at least a minarchist. Good enough for me.

I also find it funny how all the open border people in here support Ron Paul, when he himself is not an Open Border Agent.

From what I recall he is open border, just not now, because our economy is in shambles because of our socialist leaning tendencies. In a healthy economy he has said he would want open borders.

 

[No Free Beer]

That's actually debatable. However, he is at least a minarchist. Good enough for me.



From what I recall he is open border, just not now, because our economy is in shambles because of our socialist leaning tendencies. In a healthy economy he has said he would want open borders.

please supply me with examples/proof...

 

[No Free Beer]

Don't forget the funny atheists....and funny pro-choice folk....

Well, religion is separate from politics.

 

[mczerone]

Let me ask you something, how is private property, private property without contracts? Without a set of laws supporting those contracts?

I am sorry, but anarchy doesn't work.

How is private property overseen by a remote monopoly of force private?

I am sorry, but anything that's not 'anarchy' doesn't work.

 

[mczerone]

Well, religion is separate from politics.

Only if you divorce morality from your social theorizing.

 

[onlyrp]

How is private property overseen by a remote monopoly of force private?

I am sorry, but anything that's not 'anarchy' doesn't work.

the property isn't overseen, just the agreement of contracts and rules governing it.

 

[Domalais]

can actually afford to buy those weapons, intelligence, training, etc ourselves?

No, you can't.

 

[mczerone]

Are they not supported by our Constitution?

Are you?

 

[mczerone]

the property isn't overseen, just the agreement of contracts and rules governing it.

And why couldn't I hire a private enforcer of those contracts? Why does a central state need to do this? And what of Eminent Domian and Property Taxes?

You don't own your property. You are granted the privilege of using it by the govt who can take it away at any time, for any reason.

Would a private deed enforcer be able to come to you and say "Sorry, we own this now. Get off." or "We need 10% of what we thing the value of the property is every year, or we take your property."?

The state isn't an enforcer of contracts, it's a pirate that lets it's victims trade use claims to it's booty.

 

[No Free Beer]

Are you?

My rights are supported by the Constitution, yes.

My natural rights would not be supported under anarchism because there wouldn't be an scripts or laws to support my rights.

I see what you are trying to do, but that is a whole different discussion.

 

[No Free Beer]

And why couldn't I hire a private enforcer of those contracts? Why does a central state need to do this? And what of Eminent Domian and Property Taxes?

You don't own your property. You are granted the privilege of using it by the govt who can take it away at any time, for any reason.

Would a private deed enforcer be able to come to you and say "Sorry, we own this now. Get off." or "We need 10% of what we thing the value of the property is every year, or we take your property."?

The state isn't an enforcer of contracts, it's a pirate that lets it's victims trade use claims to it's booty.

With force, yes.

So you are back at square one.