Putin: Boston bombing to unite West in support of Russian actions in Chechnya

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Will these events change our foreign policy at all? I actually don't think they will at all. Americans know nothing about the conflict over there and I don't see that changing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/anzor-tsarnaev-us-bomb-suspect-father-boston_n_3154238.html

The Boston bombings should spur stronger security cooperation between Moscow and Washington, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday, adding that they also show that the West was wrong in supporting militants in Chechnya.

Putin said that "this tragedy should push us closer in fending off common threats, including terrorism, which is one of the biggest and most dangerous of them."

The two brothers accused of the Boston bombings are ethnic Chechens who had lived in the U.S. for more than a decade.

Putin warned against trying to find the roots for the Boston tragedy in the suffering endured by the Chechen people, particularly in mass deportations of Chechens to Siberia and Central Asia on Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's orders. "The cause isn't in their ethnicity or religion, it's in their extremist sentiments," he said.

Speaking in an annual call-in show on state television, Putin criticized the West for refusing to declare Chechen militants terrorists and for offering them political and financial assistance in the past.

"I always felt indignation when our Western partners and Western media were referring to terrorists who conducted brutal and bloody crimes on the territory of Russia as rebels," Putin said.

The U.S. has urged the Kremlin to seek a political settlement in Chechnya and criticized rights abuses by Russian troops during the two separatist wars since 1994, which spawned an Islamic insurgency that has engulfed the entire region.

It also provided humanitarian aid to the region during the high points of fighting there in the 1990s and the early 2000s.

Russian officials have repeatedly claimed that rebels in Chechnya have close links with al-Qaida. They say dozens of fighters from Arab countries trickled into the region during the fighting there, while some Chechen militants have gone to fight in Afghanistan.

Putin said the West should have cooperated more actively with Russia in combatting terror.

"We always have said that we shouldn't limit ourselves to declarations about terrorism being a common threat and engage in closer cooperation," he said. "Now these two criminals have proven the correctness of our thesis."
 
Free Chechnya! Free Dagestan! Free Ossetia-Alania! Free Circassia! Free Kalmykia!

and that's just to start. Others like Tuva, Tatarstan, Mari-El, etc have just as good claim to be independent as the newly-independent Ukraine, Azeribaijan, Georgia, Armenia, etc. Countries which, while they have precursor states did not exist in their present form at any time in history.
 
Free Chechnya! Free Dagestan! Free Ossetia-Alania! Free Circassia! Free Kalmykia!

and that's just to start. Others like Tuva, Tatarstan, Mari-El, etc have just as good claim to be independent as the newly-independent Ukraine, Azeribaijan, Georgia, Armenia, etc. Countries which, while they have precursor states did not exist in their present form at any time in history.

So, should I give my
first + rep to you, or are you being facetious?
 
I often wonder if people even read these threads. This has been predicted long before HP decided to spin it. I specifically remember bringing this up the night of the mess in Boston. What good is it to discuss thee things if we just wait for a mainstream screed to pop up? Anyhoo. there are some good articles from "08 around here as well regarding the issue. I'm not digging them up though.

Just skip all of this Hegelian fodder and figger on why Russia will dictate our drone policy (for one thing). That's where this is headed.
 
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So, should I give my
first + rep to you, or are you being facetious?

I said previously on the board that I am a strong supporter of over 300 independence movements (ranging from Scotland to Chechnya to Kanaky to The Marianas)

I am especially passionate regarding Russia's colonies as they have suffered genocides, wars, terrorism, etc at the hands of (or because of) Russia. There can be no freedom or liberty in them while a foreign regime controls their daily lives. The situation in Chechnya is no different than Colonial America.
 
The Boston bombings should spur stronger security cooperation between Moscow and Washington, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday, adding that they also show that the West was wrong in supporting militants in Chechnya.


What a surprise.
 
Ivan told us to remove Kebab. We didn't listen.
Now Putin tells us to remove Kebab. We must listen to our comrade Putin!
Remove Kebabs!
 
Holy crap....Russia just arrested an entire Mosque.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/26/russia-islamist-extremists_n_3164344.html

MOSCOW — Russian police and security agents detained 140 people at a mosque in Moscow on Friday on suspicion of involvement with Islamic extremism.

A statement from the Federal Security Agency reported by Russian news agencies said among those detained were 30 citizens of unspecified foreign countries.

The detentions come a week after the two suspects in the fatal Boston Marathon bombings were identified as Russian-born ethnic Chechens who sympathized with Islamic extremists.

There were no immediate reports of charges being filed. The security agency referred The Associated Press to a district office, where the telephone was not answered.

The reports cited the agency as saying the mosque previously has been visited by people who had been involved in preparing or carrying out terrorist attacks.

A Chechen separatist insurgency that began in the 1990s increasingly took on a fundamentalist Muslim character and spread to neighboring Russian Caucasus regions, including Dagestan, where Boston bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and their family lived for a period before emigrating to the United States in 2002 or 2003.

The Tsarnaevs' parents later returned to Dagestan, and Tamerlan, who was killed in a shootout with police last week, made a long visit in 2012. Investigators are trying to find out details of what he did on the six-month sojourn, especially whether he met with any extremists.

Caucasus extremists have carried out gruesome attacks on civilians in Russia, including the 2004 seizure of a school in the town of Beslan that ended in the deaths of 330 people, about half of them children. They also claimed responsibility for the 2011 bombing of Russia's busiest airport, killing 36 people.

In 2011, U.S. authorities questioned Tamerlan Tsarnaev at Russia's request, but found nothing that sparked their interest and stopped watching him.

On Friday, officials briefed on the investigation told the AP that U.S. intelligence agencies had added the mother of the suspects, Zubeidat, to a government terrorism database 18 months before the bombings. The officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because they were not allowed to speak publicly about the ongoing case.

The mother called the information "lies and hypocrisy" and said she has never been linked to crimes or terrorism.
 
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