Public School

[Icymudpuppy]

Homeschool would be fine if I could do the teaching myself, but I don't have time running my own business as I am, and much as I love my wife, she is not capable of being a teacher.

Homeschool is out because I can't do it.

Homeschool co-ops and private schools are just full time Sunday school in my area.

That leaves me with Public school, and frankly my public school district is a very good one. We have the most advanced microbiology lab in the State for our Highschoolers.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Homeschool would be fine if I could do the teaching myself, but I don't have time running my own business as I am, and much as I love my wife, she is not capable of being a teacher.

Homeschool is out because I can't do it.

Homeschool co-ops and private schools are just full time Sunday school in my area.

That leaves me with Public school, and frankly my public school district is a very good one. We have the most advanced microbiology lab in the State for our Highschoolers.

Again, this begs the question-why did you have children if you weren't prepared to pay for their education or homeschool? Children aren't pets-they're a responsibility. No offense, but this sounds rather irresponsible of you. How can you demand your leaders be responsible when you aren't yourself? Something to think about.

 

[Son of Detroit]

Again, this begs the question-why did you have children if you weren't prepared to pay for their education or homeschool? Children aren't pets-they're a responsibility. No offense, but this sounds rather irresponsible of you.

But as he said, the school that his children attend are top notch. I'm sure they get a great education there.

My school is ranked top 5% in the nation by Newsweek. The whole district is great. I don't view my parents as irresponsible.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

I'd be irresponsible to send my kids to the private schools in this area.

My public school is a good public school. I have direct input into the way it is run. I know the school board members and they know me. I participate in the PTA.

If they pulled public funding of my kid's current school district, I would still send them there with my own private money.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I'd be irresponsible to send my kids to the private schools in this area.

My public school is a good public school. I have direct input into the way it is run. I know the school board members and they know me. I participate in the PTA.

If they pulled public funding of my kid's current school district, I would still send them there with my own private money.

I stand corrected. I think you'd agree that a better solution is needed for people not in your fortunate situation, yes? Did you see John Stossel's special on this subject? Pretty interesting, if you haven't. (as an aside, I am also in favor of bringing back things like apprenticeships that result in real jobs, but that's more relevant to the college debate)

YouTube - Stupid in America

 

[ChaosControl]

I think public school is a form of child neglect ultimately. The child can work on their own to make up for the failure of the school so I wont call it out right abuse, but most children don't.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I think public school is a form of child neglect ultimately. The child can work on their own to make up for the failure of the school so I wont call it out right abuse, but most children don't.

Agreed. Did you know that public schooling is one of the planks of the communist manifesto?

 

[LittleLightShining]

Again, this begs the question-why did you have children if you weren't prepared to pay for their education or homeschool? Children aren't pets-they're a responsibility. No offense, but this sounds rather irresponsible of you. How can you demand your leaders be responsible when you aren't yourself? Something to think about.

Dude... chill out.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Dude... chill out.

Sorry...I can be picky and argumentative when it comes to principles.:o

 

[LittleLightShining]

Sorry...I can be picky and argumentative when it comes to principles.:o

You can be as self-righteous as you want to be but it's wrong for you to judge and demonize people who have clearly weighed the options and made decisions based on what was right for their families.

 

[jsu718]

Again, this begs the question-why did you have children if you weren't prepared to pay for their education or homeschool? Children aren't pets-they're a responsibility. No offense, but this sounds rather irresponsible of you. How can you demand your leaders be responsible when you aren't yourself? Something to think about.

Most people that have kids are already paying property taxes that go to public schools, so the financial responsibility is a non-issue unless they are homeless.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Most people that have kids are already paying property taxes that go to public schools, so the financial responsibility is a non-issue unless they are homeless.

I pay almost $5000/yr in property taxes

 

[Nirvikalpa]

I pay almost $5000/yr in property taxes

Try 12k in property taxes in my town and towns by my area, with incredibly crappy school districts. Pisses me off.

 

[jsu718]

I pay almost $5000/yr in property taxes

Try 12k in property taxes in my town and towns by my area, with incredibly crappy school districts. Pisses me off.

I pay $700 a year... but my district is pretty good... guess it's all about where you live

 

[LittleLightShining]

Try 12k in property taxes in my town and towns by my area, with incredibly crappy school districts. Pisses me off.

Do they fund education with the property tax where you are?

I pay $700 a year... but my district is pretty good... guess it's all about where you live

Again, how do they fund education?

I'm lucky that my kids go to a good school with a very conscientious and conservative school board.

 

[Kludge]

I've been in public school all of my life (11th grade currently); I wouldn't have it any other way. I turned out fine. Last time I checked, I wasn't some government indoctrinated drone.

I couldn't imagine being homeschooled. It'd be terrible. I couldn't learn anything that way.

I plan on sending my kids to public school. The key is to take an active role in your child's education, and be involved in school processes. Ask what your kid learned in school today, look over their papers they take home, work on their homework with them. Sure, there is some liberal indoctrination at all levels. But if you take a role in your child's education, you can help weed out that kind of stuff.

Hell, if medical school doesn't work out, I would LOVE to be a teacher. Teaching high school would be awesome, I would enjoy it very much.

+1. I only just graduated less than a year ago and also considered teaching high school courses (for a couple years, I was set on it). The public school I went to was very open and tolerant to ideas, but it's really dependent on the teachers and the students the kid ends up with (students really do make the majority of the class with their input, so make sure your kid talks a lot in class -- they're the ones who are allowed to have strong biases). Some ideas were good, some were bad, but being able to talk about the ideas as a class was a great experience. Sometimes we'd even have heated arguments. Hell, I was punched in the nose one day during Gov't. I'd hate to be stuck with just one or two opinions my entire education. I had socialist teachers, conservative teachers, an anarchist teacher, theocrats, and atheists. I almost regret abusing a temporary attendance policy loophole and skipping half my senior year.

 

[angelatc]

Again, this begs the question-why did you have children if you weren't prepared to pay for their education or homeschool?

Says the boy born with no kids and without the biological need to procreate.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Says the boy born with no kids and without the biological need to procreate.

I don't see how this biological need exempts you or anyone from responsibility, considering humans are born with higher-level thinking ability (and some would argue that humans are born with unique "moral sense"). Your argument does make sense in regards to lower-level mammals who rely only on instinct.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Most people that have kids are already paying property taxes that go to public schools, so the financial responsibility is a non-issue unless they are homeless.

Then it makes more sense to attach the money to the kid and let the parent choose the school, yes? :o

 

[Annihilia]

I don't see how this biological need exempts you or anyone from responsibility, considering humans are born with higher-level thinking ability (and some would argue that humans are born with unique "moral sense"). Your argument does make sense in regards to lower-level mammals who rely only on instinct.

The fact of the matter is, some people are faced with making tough decisions because they are backed into a corner. It has nothing to do with sacrificing principles. That is a very shallow accusation. You can't look at this one aspect of LLS's parenting and accuse her of being neglectful when she is up against the weight of generations of coercive legislation (as we all are). I am sure the state has stolen a good chunk of the money she would have spent on sending her kids to a private school.

I suppose by having the municipal trash monopoly picking up my garbage two days out of the week, I also qualify as some sort of beneficiary of state violence. If you've driven on a public road, you are guilty as well. I do think it is important to be principled, but being a purist is impossible. You are being unfair with your criticisms, in my opinion.