Providince Rhode Island just fired all 2,000 of it's public school teachers

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.pbn.com/Dismissal-notices-issued-to-all-Providence-public-school-teachers-,55821

Dismissal notices issued to all Providence public school teachers

By PBN Staff

All Providence public school teachers were issued dismissal notices on Tuesday amid ongoing budget planning ...

 

[South Park Fan]

+1

 

[FrankRep]

They didn't fire the teachers.


Rhode Island: All Providence Teachers get Layoff Notices as Precaution
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...nce-Teachers-get-Layoff-Notices-as-Precaution

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

They are going to fire a bunch of them. They just don't know which ones or how many yet. As it stands now, they are all fired at the end of the school year.

 

[nobody's_hero]

I wonder how they're going to measure who is worth keeping and who is worth firing.

I seem to recall that when Savannah, GA wanted to do something like this, they based their decisions on student performance at the end of the year as a measure of each teacher's abilities.

Oddly, students magically started getting A's, whether they did anything or not.

 

[JamesButabi]

This is pretty common occurence in RI for anyone wondering. We have both unionized and non unionized workers working the school department. They basically shovel the extra paperwork onto the non union members during this timeframe. Results vary, but the state and local budgets are riddled with corruption and are a complete mess.

 

[Vessol]

End public schooling.

 

[FrankRep]

End public schooling.

Not Public Schooling, just The Department of Education.

 

[Vessol]

Not Public Schooling, just The Department of Education.

No, end public schooling. The State has no reason to teach children except for the indoctrination and spread of the ideas that it finds useful for its own preservation.

Obviously, critical thinking skills are not useful to the State.

Let the free market and parents handle education.

 

[muzzled dogg]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Vessol again.

 

[FrankRep]

No, end public schooling. The State has no reason to teach children except for the indoctrination and spread of the ideas that it finds useful for its own preservation.

Let the States decide how they want to handle education!

 

[Vessol]

Let the States decide how they want to handle education!

I would settle for that over what we currently have, however I'd desire the end result that the government gets out of education all together.

At least on the State level, there would not be unlimited Federal money to throw at education, then they might have to operate with at least some profit motive..

 

[AuH20]

No, end public schooling. The State has no reason to teach children except for the indoctrination and spread of the ideas that it finds useful for its own preservation.

Obviously, critical thinking skills are not useful to the State.

Let the free market and parents handle education.

Didn't Rockefeller brag that the women's liberation movement was their idea so as to wrestle away the conditioning of the children? Think about. Every day from 8 am to 3 PM the state is filling our children's heads with trash.

 

[FrankRep]

I would settle for that over what we currently have, however I'd desire the end result that the government gets out of education all together.

At least on the State level, there would not be unlimited Federal money to throw at education, then they might have to operate with at least some profit motive..

Once the states can decide how to handle education, you can move to a state where the schooling is completely community/privately run.

New Hampshire, maybe?

 

[Fredom101]

Well, it's a start, but I guarangoddamntee you that the State will never voluntarily loosen its death grip on education!

 

[Vessol]

Didn't Rockefeller brag that the women's liberation movement was their idea so as to wrestle away the conditioning of the children? Think about. Every day from 8 am to 3 PM the state is filling our children's heads with trash.

Throughout the last 2nd millennium, government-funded education has always been a tool of the State to push their preferred ideas and beliefs into children at their most vulnerable periods of development

Why is government education compulsory at such a young age? I'll tell you one thing, it isn't because the government is so compassionate and truly cares if little Billy can read or not.

 

[TrueFreedom]

Throughout the last 2nd millennium, government-funded education has always been a tool of the State to push their preferred ideas and beliefs into children at their most vulnerable periods of development

Why is government education compulsory at such a young age? I'll tell you one thing, it isn't because the government is so compassionate and truly cares if little Billy can read or not.

I'm guessing that I don't understand where you guys are coming from. I am a high school teacher in a public school system in Texas and my kids do not get taught "trash." You have to be very careful with stereotypes, as Ron Paul supporters you should be the first to know that. Many people who hold positions in state and local government do care a great deal about whether or not little Billy can read. While I do understand there are some terrible people out there that believe they can control the masses, there is no need to turn everyone who may even remotely be involved in the government or the public school system into some villian.

 

[AuH20]

I'm guessing that I don't understand where you guys are coming from. I am a high school teacher in a public school system in Texas and my kids do not get taught "trash." You have to be very careful with stereotypes, as Ron Paul supporters you should be the first to know that. Many people who hold positions in state and local government do care a great deal about whether or not little Billy can read. While I do understand there are some terrible people out there that believe they can control the masses, there is no need to turn everyone who may even remotely be involved in the government or the public school system into some villian.

But how much can you deviate from the curriculum? Secondly, why aren't their compulsory classes teaching economics? Simple things as balancing a checkbook. Essential lifeskills. I just don't get it. There are good teachers out there but I'm dismayed by the system. It seems more apt to produce drones as opposed to free thinkers.

 

[libertybrewcity]

Wisconsin's Constitution requires that all gives have the ability to take a bus to school. We have a long way to go.

 

[Vessol]

I'm guessing that I don't understand where you guys are coming from. I am a high school teacher in a public school system in Texas and my kids do not get taught "trash." You have to be very careful with stereotypes, as Ron Paul supporters you should be the first to know that. Many people who hold positions in state and local government do care a great deal about whether or not little Billy can read. While I do understand there are some terrible people out there that believe they can control the masses, there is no need to turn everyone who may even remotely be involved in the government or the public school system into some villian.

Considering that I'm likely to become a public school teacher myself as I pursue a history degree, I understand what you are saying. I'm not blaming the teachers, but rather I'm blaming the system.

The system lacks any kind of profit motive that gives the incentive to improve and deliver a strong product(education) to the customers(parents). The fact that when schools fail, they only receive more money, goes against the most simplest models of running a successful business.

Going into the actual material that is taught, a lot of it is utterly useless. Little critical thinking skills are taught, in favor of teaching basic memorization and retention of facts so that the students can take standardized fill-in-the-bubble tests. I can only really speak on the subject of history, but the garbage that is shoveled into those text books they give kids is riddled with inconsistencies, glossing over, and outright lies.

This is all outlined by the heavy handed indoctrination that occurs naturally in school. Probably the most clearly evident practice is the "Pledge of Allegiance" which is truly a sickening concept when you look at what the words mean and who actually wrote the damn thing. History classes themselves teach an extremely distorted view on American history, probably one of the most clearly evident being the near theistic worship of Lincoln and Columbus. The whole basis of the system is to create menial workers who don't question anything that may endanger the broad Statist agenda.