Propaganda Alert: without National ID card, you may be banned from boarding airplanes in 2016

[R.G]

Interesting posting style to this one here^^^ I am sure Acala will lose sleep over not being found credible by new poster.

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

 

[acptulsa]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

God doesn't think she thinks she's God.

so manly -

She is?

could you please speak more clearly??

LOL Kettle, meet pot. No, make that glass, meet the pot that's calling you black because a fly landed on you.

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

No, we actually like her because she's not an obnoxious troll here to be a pain in the ass, but rather to have adult conversations.

If you could play the guitar like that, we'd forgive you for being a pain in the ass like that. Maybe.

 

[moostraks]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

Just found it interesting that someone with 37 posts is spending time taking names and making a naughty list as if it is relevant to the conversation. Not to mention being the language police.

I never commented on the roads issue but nice try in chastising without any data on my opinion. So supporting private roads=god complex? Alrighty there. Any other issues we need to comply with on your list of acceptable beliefs we can hold to not be insulted?

 

[moostraks]

God doesn't think she thinks she's God.



She is?



LOL Kettle, meet pot. No, make that glass, meet the pot that's calling you black because a fly landed on you.



No, we actually like her because she's not an obnoxious troll here to be a pain in the ass, but rather to have adult conversations.



If you could play the guitar like that, we'd forgive you for being a pain in the ass like that. Maybe.

Lol! Thanks acptulsa...

 

[R.G]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around. Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special? I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

 

[R.G]

thanks for switching the post back. Moonstruck get over the fact you were here 1st, really. 37 posts, 37 posts is that code for something?

 

[TheCount]

 

[Anti Federalist]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around. Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special? I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

 

[acptulsa]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around.

No.

Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special?

Nobody can do that but mods. Yes, I am special, but I'm not extra special the way you seem to be.

I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

How sweet. So, she doesn't think newbies lack credibility but she's a member of the Mayflower Club. Well, well. And will you tell her that moostrak's people met them at the boat?

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get.

Having fun building yourself a scarecrow? 'Cause I voted for Ron Paul in 1988...

It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

What am I alleged to have done to that video, and do I get a trial before I'm convicted...?

 

[R.G]

acptulsa, I believe you. Must have been a mod. Anyway it's switched back now. I sure you have done more than just vote and blog, I can tell.

 

[Mani]

I suspect the media will be pushing for it over the next few years so that the average Joe will eventually think it is a good idea to have nationwide. The Neocon pundits will sell it as a solution to protect us from ISIS-terrorists coming across the Mexican border and as a voter ID. The left will want it as a document that allows illegals to get drivers licenses, welfare and healthcare benefits.

+REP

And those who go against it will be accused of hating immigrants and loving terrorists. So you can't oppose it without being chastised by both sides.



Even if RealID is killed at the state level, the Federal gov't will reincarnate it as FREEDOM Badges. Need to keep a watchful eye.

 

[The Free Hornet]

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

Phil Gramm is exactly the type of socialist I've opposed for years, a big government statist:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Phil_Gramm.htm
(pro drug war, pro Iraq war, second amendment violations)
(pro foreign drug wars, a double whammy)

Why was he personally telling you stuff anyway? You should have told him to fuck off.

I read my first libertarian book in 1988 and haven't forgotten the lessons. Lessons that Phil Gramm never learned:

Economics in One Lesson - Ludwig von Mises Institute
[Inflation-adjusted price of FREE!]

A million copy seller, Henry Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson is a classic economic primer. But it is also much more, having become a fundamental influence on modern “libertarian” economics of the type espoused by Ron Paul and others.

Considered among the leading economic thinkers of the “Austrian School,” which includes Carl Menger, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich (F.A.) Hayek, and others, Henry Hazlitt (1894-1993), was a libertarian philosopher, an economist, and a journalist. He was the founding vice-president of the Foundation for Economic Education and an early editor of The Freeman magazine, an influential libertarian publication. Hazlitt wrote Economics in One Lesson, his seminal work, in 1946. Concise and instructive, it is also deceptively prescient and far-reaching in its efforts to dissemble economic fallacies that are so prevalent they have almost become a new orthodoxy.

Many current economic commentators across the political spectrum have credited Hazlitt with foreseeing the collapse of the global economy which occurred more than 50 years after the initial publication of Economics in One Lesson. Hazlitt’s focus on non-governmental solutions, strong — and strongly reasoned — anti-deficit position, and general emphasis on free markets, economic liberty of individuals, and the dangers of government intervention make Economics in One Lesson, every bit as relevant and valuable today as it has been since publication.

A straightforward analysis of economic fallacies that are so prevalent that they have almost become a new orthodoxy.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eco...1987?ean=9780517548233#product-commentaries-1

 

[idiom]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT HAVE PASSPORTS? Have none of you ever been outside of your own damn country?

Everyone I know has a passport.

 

[R.G]

Phil Gramm is exactly the type of socialist I've opposed for years, a big government statist:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Phil_Gramm.htm
(pro drug war, pro Iraq war, second amendment violations)
(pro foreign drug wars, a double whammy)

Why was he personally telling you stuff anyway? You should have told him to fuck off.

I read my first libertarian book in 1988 and haven't forgotten the lessons. Lessons that Phil Gramm never learned:

Economics in One Lesson - Ludwig von Mises Institute
[Inflation-adjusted price of FREE!]

I was involved with stopping Hillary care if you really need to know The Free Hornet. I was running Iowa and Nebraska for the National Association for the Self Employed. The largest association of self-employed people in America. Phil Gramm was the first person to tell me about this idea about a tax-free savings account with tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals, total tax freedom. I'm sure you know all about them because Ron Paul has been a big supporter of tax-free MSA before I wrote the 1st one in the United States in 1996. In 1996 I was running the largest agency in the United States for TIME Insurance Company, America's oldest health insurance company. Time is in 43 states and no other insurance company is even close. I'm sure you probably have a tax free account because it is very similar to an IQ test. Do you want to pay taxes on every dollar earned or would you prefer to go tax free? Tell me The Free Hornet, where do you have your tax-free HSA with?

TIME was owned by FORTIS, the 18th largest company in the world doing $4.5 Billion net annually. When I got the award for the first tax-free MSA we were in Paris at the La Grand hotel across from the Paris Opera. FORTIS rented out the Paris Opera for the formal presentation. Tell me The Free Hornet, what do you do and who do you have your tax-free HSA with, just wondering? You sound like a pretty smart guy. I usually don't tell anybody to fuXk off, sorry.

 

[moostraks]

I was involved with stopping Hillary care if you really need to know The Free Hornet. I was running Iowa and Nebraska for the National Association for the Self Employed. The largest association of self-employed people in America. Phil Gramm was the first person to tell me about this idea about a tax-free savings account with tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals, total tax freedom. I'm sure you know all about them because Ron Paul has been a big supporter of tax-free MSA before I wrote the 1st one in the United States in 1996. In 1996 I was running the largest agency in the United States for TIME Insurance Company, America's oldest health insurance company. Time is in 43 states and no other insurance company is even close. I'm sure you probably have a tax free account because it is very similar to an IQ test. Do you want to pay taxes on every dollar earned or would you prefer to go tax free? Tell me The Free Hornet, where do you have your tax-free HSA with?

TIME was owned by FORTIS, the 18th largest company in the world doing $4.5 Billion net annually. When I got the award for the first tax-free MSA we were in Paris at the La Grand hotel across from the Paris Opera. FORTIS rented out the Paris Opera for the formal presentation. Tell me The Free Hornet, what do you do and who do you have your tax-free HSA with, just wondering? You sound like a pretty smart guy. I usually don't tell anybody to fuXk off, sorry.

Shame Hillarycare wasn't really stopped...

And this is why you are a dismissive and pretentious entity who thinks he can command respect on the internet? Maybe your bullish behavior is effective irl for you but this is an established community. Acting like a peevish child making lists in order to humiliate others into cooperating is distracting not to mention anti-liberty imo. Make a solid case for what your argument is against the position someone holds and do NOT put words in people's mouths because that game has no place here and you will be called on it. Oh and 37 posts was how many you had written at the point in time I looked at your post history to figure out why you were responding so rudely.

So you still owe me an apology for the private/public roads issue you attempted to chastise me for and have yet to offer any substance on how that relates to a god complex. Is it your position that muh roads must be a government only function?

 

[Root]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT HAVE PASSPORTS? Have none of you ever been outside of your own damn country?

Everyone I know has a passport.

i don't have one.

 

[moostraks]

i don't have one.

My ex husband shredded mine years ago in a temper tantrum. I have yet to go get a new one they are fairly expensive now compared to the first one I had...

 

[Acala]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

I find this post to be borderline unintelligible. I don't advocate using the threat of violence to take people's money to pay for roads they may or may not wish to use. I doubt God has an opinon on the subject.

 

[Acala]

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get.

Where were you in 1980 when I was supporting Ed Clark for President? Not that I think that gives me any authority . . .

As for medical savings accounts: great idea unless you think, as I do, that the worst thing you can do for any sector of the economy is to get banks involved. Of course Phill Gramm was a whore for the banks from the beginning.

 

[R.G]

You are correct moostrak, we didn't stop Hillarycare. I am so sorry moonstrak.

Kentucky Democratic Governor Steve Beshear, Barack H. Obama

Kentucky State Employee's Health Insurance Rates
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In Louisville a 30-year-old couple and 2 Children can get the HSA Bronze plan for $585.02/month from Blue Cross

The Democratic Governor is charging state employees with family coverage $642.98/month

plus paying an additional $1,058.06/month!!!

All this money goes to HUMANA - moonstruk can you see any corruption here?

Plus, if this family earns $50,000/year the tax credits are $447.19/month, so this family would only owe $137.83/month

Plus, Plus, the state of Kentucky wouldn't have to pay $1058.06/month per employee (Kentucky has 65,000 State Employees)

moonstuck we should email this info to Rand Paul so he can save Kentucky a Mountain of Money(MOM) for the tax-payers.

Here is the link to the rates for employees: Kentucky Crony Insurance Rates for State Employees

Kentucky can save Billions & Billions