Pro-Paul group unleashes fiery attack ad

I didn't know that. The last thing we need is to attack Cruz right now. WTF is wrong with Benton? I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is just awful.

I'm pretty sure Peter Thiel is a big fan and friend of Ted Cruz.













However, Cruz actually DID show up for the filibuster.
 
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'fiery' attack ad?

I guess, if by 'fiery' you mean off the charts embarrassing.

The fact that Matt Collins promotes this with a positive spin proves that he would be as beneficial to have around as Jesse Benton.

It got a thumbs up from The Collinz, that's good enough for me.
 
I don't get the point of trashing Cruz in a terrible ad either. Even if he's not as committed as Rand, Cruz is still an ally in defeating the PA. And it's certainly not going to endear Cruz supporters to Rand.

Agreed.
 
Are we to pretend that Rafael hasn't been out there on the campaign trail actively attacking Randal?

It's just idiotic to bash Cruz for not showing up to an ongoing filibuster that he actually ends up showing up for. Idiotic, like everything Benton and Matt Collins do.
 
It's silly, but some of you are being as over-the-top as the video itself. It's just an Internet ad meant to go viral, and it's doing what it's supposed to.
 
It's just idiotic to bash Cruz for not showing up to an ongoing filibuster that he actually ends up showing up for. Idiotic, like everything Benton and Matt Collins do.

I thought we were talking about the ad? Had Cruz shown up for the filibuster when those tweets were sent? No? So they were accurate at the time.
Is Cruz supporting the invasive freedom act? (it hurts me to call that pos by that name). Yes he is; so the ad is truthful and worth attacking him on.

This is no worse than Cruz recently attacking Randal on Gun issues saying Randal didn't do enough to support him after the Newton incident while at the same time Gun groups were crediting Randal for stopping anti gun bills at the same time.
 
Well, this is amateur hour. I really need somebody to convince me that this is the kind of branding that will lead us to a victory. Awful, absolutely awful. Willing to reconsider my opinion, but at first glance: NO! Pull this off the airwaves.



America's Liberty PAC is responsible for the ad. If you're not familiar with ALP, read on.

I'm usually not one to bash the people working on the campaign, but this is downright embarrassing for those of us who have been sticking our neck out there defending Rand.


What makes it even more terrible is the fact that I have NO FUCKING IDEA what it was talking about! What the hell was the ad about? From a messaging perspective, it's awful and doesn't make any sense.

Terrible waste of money.
 
It's silly, but some of you are being as over-the-top as the video itself. It's just an Internet ad meant to go viral, and it's doing what it's supposed to.

It goes around facebook and a lot of people see it, my guess is that if it has an effect it will be subtracting support. Both from fewer votes, and fewer donors as they see how the Rand super pac is being run.
 
I thought we were talking about the ad? Had Cruz shown up for the filibuster when those tweets were sent? No?

It seems to me that when you vitriolically attack somebody for something that quickly changes or ends up being false (Cruz ending up showing up for the filibuster), you end up looking bad. Even if your goal was to hurt Cruz, you hurt yourself.
 
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What makes it even more terrible is the fact that I have NO FUCKING IDEA what it was talking about! What the hell was the ad about? From a messaging perspective, it's awful and doesn't make any sense.

Terrible waste of money.

So you didn't walk away from it knowing that something was happening on Sunday in regards to govt snooping?
 
It seems to be that when you vitriolically attack somebody for something that quickly changes or ends up being false (Cruz ending up showing up for the filibuster), you end up looking bad. Even if your goal was to hurt Cruz, you hurt yourself.

Maybe with an informed electorate. the uninformed electorate seems to only read headlines.
 
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