Preparing for the PAW (Post Apocalyptic World)

amy31416 said:
Good stuff Asgard. I'm just going to add one vital thing to your lists: toothpaste/toothbrush.
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Good catch - I should have listed the hygiene kit inside the clothing kit separately. That's where TB/TP, soap, sanitary napkins, etc. are stored.

Note: I think there's about 10 feet of duct tape wrapped around the toothbrush. Makes it interesting to use, but saves space elsewhere.
 
Main Med Kit

My main medical kit is stored in a military surplus M3 combat medic bag, wrapped in a 2-gallon Ziploc to keep it dry. The kit consists of a variety of sub-kits, each separately labeled and packaged.

Medical Kit, Main

Bandages
2nd Skin pad, 2” x 3” (3)
abdominal pad, 5” x 9” (1)
adhesive pad, 2” x 2” (1)
bandage, Ace (2)
bandage, butterfly (8)
bandage, Kling, roll, 2” x 10 yd (1)
bandage, knuckle (2)
bandage, liquid, NewSkin (1)
bandage, pressure, 113/4" (1)
bandage, triangular, 51” w/safety pin (1)
bandaid, large (15)
bandaid, small (10)
dressing, Tegaderm, 6 x 7 cm (2)
eye pad, gauze, 15/8 x 25/8 (2)
gauze roll, 2” x 6 yd (2)
gauze pad, 2” x 2” (6)
gauze pad, 3” x 3” (6)
gauze pad, 4” x 4” (6)
moleskin, 2½” x 1½” (1)
Steri-strip, 3 x 75 mm (1)
Telfa pad, 2” x 3” (5)
Telfa pad, 2” x 4½” (1)

Disinfectants
alcohol, tube, .67ml (1)
hydrogen peroxide, 1 oz
sanitizer, hand (alcohol) (1)
soap (1 bar)
swab, benzoin tincture (2)
swab, iodine (1)
swab, prep, Povidone/iodine, 0.6 ml (3)
wipes, alcohol prep (9)
wipes, antibacterial, large (pack)
wipes, antiseptic, small (9)
wipes, Povidone (2)

Dental
dental emergency filling kit (1)
dental pain kit (1)
OraJel (2 tubes)

Meds
Alka Seltzer (2)
Aleve (naproxen sodium)/aspirin/Dramamine/ES Tylenol/Orudis KT (ketoprofen) (12 ea)
Chloraseptic (4)
electrolyte tabs (12)
glucose tabs (2 tubes)
Imodium AD (12)
laxative (12)
prescription meds (7 day supply, rotate as needed)
Rolaids (3 tubes)
Zantac (antacid) (2)

Reference
Emergency War Surgery
US Army Special Forces Medical Handbook

Surgical
alcohol prep pad (6)
applicator swab, cotton (2)
applicator swab, Betadine (4)
bandaids, large (1 pk)
bandaids, small (1 pk)
benzalkonium chloride prep pad (4)
germicidal wipes (1 pk)
hemostat, curved (1)
hemostat, lg straight (1)
hemostat, small straight (1)
ointment, triple antibiotic (1)
pick, dental (1)
pipette, plastic (1)
Povidone/iodine prep pad (6)
scalpel, #11 (1)
scissors, bandage (1)
shears, EMT (1)
sutures, 6-0 Nylon (6)
tweezers (1)

Tools
ammonia inhalant (3)
bag, waste (1)
blanket, emergency (1)
compress pack, cold (1)
CPR rescue breather (1)
ear plugs (1 pr)
flashlight (hanging on bag) (1)
gloves, exam (2 pr)
lace, boot (1)
lighter, butane (1)
marker, red (1)
mirror, dental, curved (1)
nail clippers (1)
notepad (1)
pen (1)
poncho, disposable (1)
ring cutter (1)
safety pins (6)
SAM splint (1)
Sawyer extractor (1)
snakebite kit (1)
splint, finger (1)
stethoscope (1)
swabs, cotton (10)
tape, athletic, cling roll (3)
thermometer/sheaths (1/10)
tick remover (1)
tongue depressors (6)

Topical
analgesic gel, Perform (4)
Benadryl, stick (1)
burn cream (3)
BurnFree, gel (1)
Carmex (1)
chapstick (1)
inhalant, ammonia (1)
lubricant, surgical, 3 g (1)
ointment, triple antibiotic (15)
petroleum jelly, tube (1)
saline, tube, 3 ml (2)
wipes, sting relief (2)
 
Ya know what Asgard? I'm just going to keep this real simple and put a map to your place in my glove box.

I'll bring a car fulla food, books (can't leave those behind!) and everything you need for s'mores. :)
 
amy31416 said:
Ya know what Asgard? I'm just going to keep this real simple and put a map to your place in my glove box.

I'll bring a car fulla food, books (can't leave those behind!) and everything you need for s'mores. :)
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*snicker*

Better head to southern Utah then. 'cos that's where I'll be if the balloon REALLY goes up. My campsite will be just past the third rock near that cow skull ;)
 
asgardshill said:
*snicker*

Better head to southern Utah then. 'cos that's where I'll be if the balloon REALLY goes up. My campsite will be just past the third rock near that cow skull ;)
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Excellent. I think I know the place-- isn't there a cactus nearby?
 
amy31416 said:
Excellent. I think I know the place-- isn't there a cactus nearby?
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Three of them, actually. But they keep disappearing - Californicators keep digging them up for their yards, so I just embedded the cow skull in reinforced concrete as a landmark.
 
asgardshill said:
Three of them, actually. But they keep disappearing - Californicators keep digging them up for their yards, so I just embedded the cow skull in reinforced concrete as a landmark.
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Commie bastards.

Seriously though, thanks for the extensive lists. I copied and pasted and the only thing I think that is different about mine is that I have a list of chemicals and would like to put together a portable still of some sort as well (no, not just for moonshine :))
 
amy31416 said:
I copied and pasted and the only thing I think that is different about mine is that I have a list of chemicals and would like to put together a portable still of some sort as well (no, not just for moonshine :))
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Yeah, some of the "chemicals" in mine aren't listed, but I know they're there. It helps to have a sister who's an RN and a cooperative doc willing to prescribe certain ... er, "stuff" I squirrel away in the med kit for emergency use, especially to a non-doctor. (Hell, as much as he makes from my aches and pains, he'd BETTER be cooperative.)

I'm fascinated about the still though - if not for poteen, what would you need to distill out in the boonies? (If its a sensitive topic, I understand). Having a father who was in the business, the only recommendations I can make right offhand are:

- Don't use an old car or truck radiator as your condenser due to the lead in the old ones, and just about all radiators nowadays are plastic.

- Set up your still as high as possible with good sight lines so you can defend it.

- The more heavily-wooded and remote area you can find to locate your still, the better. (For fuel and protection from prying eyes and noses).
 
asgardshill said:
Yeah, some of the "chemicals" in mine aren't listed, but I know they're there. It helps to have a sister who's an RN and a cooperative doc willing to prescribe certain ... er, "stuff" I squirrel away in the med kit for emergency use, especially to a non-doctor. (Hell, as much as he makes from my aches and pains, he'd BETTER be cooperative.)

I'm fascinated about the still though - if not for poteen, what would you need to distill out in the boonies? (If its a sensitive topic, I understand). Having a father who was in the business, the only recommendations I can make right offhand are:

- Don't use an old car or truck radiator as your condenser due to the lead in the old ones, and just about all radiators nowadays are plastic.

- Set up your still as high as possible with good sight lines so you can defend it.

- The more heavily-wooded and remote area you can find to locate your still, the better. (For fuel and protection from prying eyes and noses).
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Thanks for the advice. And no, it's not really about "sensitive" things, just a notion that having a system for purification and identification (you can tell what something is by it's boiling point) makes you more able to make or purify whatever liquids you need. Could be fuel (dangerous if you don't know what you're doing), water purification, alcohol purification--you can separate volatile from non-volatile.

It's more of a thing that you'd want if problems were long-term. And because I'd like it and it'd give me something to play with. :)
 
something i was thinking about lastnite...

i have a glock 23. i am wanting to get a conversion kit so i can shoot .22s instead of the .40s all the time. $$$. i think it would be a good idea to get a conversion kit for every cal below my 40 in prep for the paw. that way, any pistol ammo i 'find', i can use! AND with a gun i am familure with!

thoughts?
 
Would those conversions kits really work?

It seems like it could be more trouble than it is worth.
 
sfws09 said:
something i was thinking about lastnite...

i have a glock 23. i am wanting to get a conversion kit so i can shoot .22s instead of the .40s all the time. $$$. i think it would be a good idea to get a conversion kit for every cal below my 40 in prep for the paw. that way, any pistol ammo i 'find', i can use! AND with a gun i am familure with!

thoughts?
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I just got an Advantage Arms 22 lr conversion kit for my Glock 37. It works very well and allows me to practice with the same sights and grip I usually use. I like it very much. You will just want to follow up your practice with say 50 rounds of your usual ammunition so you again get used to the kick.
 
Nothing as fun as a Glock --- but my Badlands 4500 internal-frame pack just came in on the highly unlikely chance it's time to scoot out of NYC in a big hurry :)

it's also in Advantage MAX1 camo so I can take it out west when I go elk hunting!
 
You're going to need a network of likeminded people you can rely upon. Survival without the ability to influence is is just a wasted existence. Next up, brush up on your movies...T2, V, V: The Final Battle, Red Dawn...throw in John Adams and other historic American films. If anything to adopt a mindset of resistance and inspiration.

This must sound odd.
 
Better have plenty of gas masks and other bio hazard gear.

If the infrastructure crumbles, I wouldn't want to be near any medical labs.

CDC seals bioterror bugs – with duct tape

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67832

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has revealed a unique, high-tech use of its own – sealing off potentially fatal bioterror bacteria.

At its $214 million Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratory in Atlanta, Ga., CDC scientists have been duct taping a lab door in an attempt to contain the airborne Q fever, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

The silver adhesive was taped around a lab containment door one year ago following a ventilation malfunction in which potentially contaminated air streamed backward through a duct and into a "clean" hallway. Nine workers were blood tested in May 2007 for exposure to Q fever bacteria following the leak.

Ebright told the AJC that the CDC's use of duct tape to contain bioterror bacteria "raises very serious concerns about management. And those concerns are particularly important when one bears in mind this facility will ultimately be handling a full range of lethal pathogens – up to and including smallpox."
 
^^ I live far from such.
but it should be a concern to anyone in the vicinity of these facilities.
 
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