PPP Poll - Florida General Election / Ron Paul Crushes Obama with Independents

Closed the last time I checked. Those independents won't help one bit unless we get them registered. Florida is a lost cause IMO.

There should be extensive voter registration everywhere. Especially college men.
 
So does this mean the founders were correct by only allowing men to have the right to vote?

It should also be noted that ever since women were allowed the right to vote, no man with a beard has ever been elected president again. A shallow voting block that bases things on looks perhaps?
 
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Same problem as always, the women voters.

It's not really a problem. It's part of the process.
Men are the ones that have the yearning to branch out and search. It's an instinct thing possibly derived from the hunter gather setup from the Stone Age. Typically the men do the exploring, take the risk, and make sure the way is safe. Then once the coast is clear the women venture out as well. In the last week or so there has been a notable stepping forward of a few women, Laura Trice at Huffington post. The shift is a trickle at first, but will grow and grow in the months ahead.
 
Ron Paul Crosstabs:

18 to 29:
  • Obama 51%
  • Paul 36%
30 to 45:
  • Obama 45%
  • Paul 43%
46 to 65:
  • Obama 48%
  • Paul 44%
Older than 65:
  • Paul 50%
  • Obama 38%
Man:
  • Paul 50%
  • Obama 39%
Woman:
  • Obama 51%
  • Paul 39%

My comments:

18 to 29: Je ne comprends pas...? I thought we were very popular with college students.

30 to 65: Looks like we need to work on baby boomers.

Women: Is this really about the abortion issue..?
 
My comments:

18 to 29: Je ne comprends pas...? I thought we were very popular with college students.

30 to 65: Looks like we need to work on baby boomers.

Women: Is this really about the abortion issue..?

We are very popular with college students. Obama beats Paul with them, but Obama gets 62% against every other Republican.
 
We are very popular with college students. Obama beats Paul with them, but Obama gets 62% against every other Republican.

Oh, I had no knowledge of that, thank you. To be more specific, I thought that Paul could easily beat Obama with college students, that is what surprised me.

This is just an assumption, but.. College students probably support Obama blindly because they haven't gone out on their own in the real world and truly experienced his term yet, and because he is black.
 
The women are definitely letting us down. I don't think its the abortion thing, though. I think that for various reasons, women are more subject to a community mentality. They don't see other women like them supporting Ron Paul, and they don't see anyone in the media supporting Ron Paul. Even though I have been a supporter since before 2007, I know that I have been very uncomfortable myself at RP supporter events and Republican events. Its tough being one of the only women at such events. Usually the ratio is about 10 (or more) to 1. The few women that are there, are usually young college women or much older women. I am the only "mom" I have ever met who supports RP and my kids are the only young kids that have ever been at an event (in contrast with other candidates who had tons of families at the same events). I try to reach out to other moms like me on the playground and church and other places, and almost always the first thing they say is that they don't know anyone else supporting Ron Paul. For some reason, public consensus means a lot more to women than to men. Until there is more media attention (on shows women might actually watch) and more women see people like them as supporters, I don't think that these numbers are going to change much.
 
This is just an assumption, but.. College students probably support Obama blindly because they haven't gone out on their own in the real world and truly experienced his term yet, and because he is black.

I suspect that as soon as they graduate and either cannot find a job or by some miracle get a job and have to pay their first tax bills, their tunes will change.
 
The women are definitely letting us down. I don't think its the abortion thing, though. I think that for various reasons, women are more subject to a community mentality. They don't see other women like them supporting Ron Paul, and they don't see anyone in the media supporting Ron Paul. Even though I have been a supporter since before 2007, I know that I have been very uncomfortable myself at RP supporter events and Republican events. Its tough being one of the only women at such events. Usually the ratio is about 10 (or more) to 1. The few women that are there, are usually young college women or much older women. I am the only "mom" I have ever met who supports RP and my kids are the only young kids that have ever been at an event (in contrast with other candidates who had tons of families at the same events). I try to reach out to other moms like me on the playground and church and other places, and almost always the first thing they say is that they don't know anyone else supporting Ron Paul. For some reason, public consensus means a lot more to women than to men. Until there is more media attention (on shows women might actually watch) and more women see people like them as supporters, I don't think that these numbers are going to change much.

As a woman.. I find that to be rather.. shallow. Why care what others think?
 
Remember the YT: "I've Got a Crush on Obama"? Maybe the male/female thing is more about the types of social media RP supporters frequent? Look at the big presence in the body building community, etc. Maybe some simple ad targeting? Another unexploited resource: the female Pauls. Even antagonists in Iowa were saying that it was virtually unanimous that Carol Paul would be the best first lady. She could talk about her cookbooks, adventures on the campaign trail, Ron and his old tractor, whatever. She has probably had a lot of contact with TX-14 women who've had spouses deployed in the military and all.
Also, in many places in the states, there's this on line community called "Freecyle", where you can give things away. I know there's one in Nashua, NH. If you have something to give away, you post about it and people contact you. What if someone offered free RP bumper stickers? All the contacts from that would be positive and could get those people more involved in the campaign.
 
No, they probably don't. As a FEMALE, I'm single, without kids, so I have more time to follow politics. My friends who have families DO NOT. Many women are just way too BUSY to get all the facts. Between taking care of the kids, husband, AND working FT as many do, pray tell when do they have TIME to really research the facts on candidates and issues?? They are totally stressed out and barely have time for themselves. I think they only have time to hear tv sound bytes and then form their opinions from there. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe the Ron Paul supporters who are boyfriends and husbands can help in the education process!

I have little hope for the future when one has the right to vote even though they don't have time to study. Maybe we ought to give driver's licenses to people who didn't have time to learn to drive?

There really needs to be some kind of voter certification based on understanding of the Constitution. Wishful thinking.

I'm sure there is some correlation between women earning the right to vote and our gradual disregard for the Constitution.
 
I have little hope for the future when one has the right to vote even though they don't have time to study. Maybe we ought to give driver's licenses to people who didn't have time to learn to drive?

There really needs to be some kind of voter certification based on understanding of the Constitution. Wishful thinking.

I'm sure there is some correlation between women earning the right to vote and our gradual disregard for the Constitution.

I'm pretty sure comments like this don't help sell our cause to women voters....
 
From personal experience, many older voters are sympathetic to Ron, but don't support him because they mistakenly feel he wouldn't attract independent voters.

Seriously.

Hammer home the independent support angle.
 
A womens instincts are to be taken care of and have a secure place to bear children......so some socialism works for them.
To the RP women here I do not include you, you are the rare and the brave! Thank you. I am only talking in general terms there are ALWAYS exclusions.
We are all animals and all animals have instincts so please don't get defensive and freak out
Hey who needs to be PC at RP forums anyway!
 
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