POTUS signs an executive order on election integrity

[Swordsmyth]

If Massie made himself the enemy of the MAGA Agenda then the MAGA Agenda is not conservative.

I have never seen Massie do anything to thwart a truly conservative agenda. And I've been watching.

Then you haven't been paying attention, I've posted the many examples before and I'm not going to do so now.

Massie talks a good game, introduces good bills he knows will never pass, votes no on bad bills he knows will pass anyway, and then makes up convenient excuses whenever McConnell needs his vote.

 

[acptulsa]

Then you haven't been paying attention, I've posted the many examples before and I'm not going to do so now.

And everyone knows why -- because each one you've whined about is Trump serving the Democrat Party from whence he sprang, and your "examples" are where Massie is refusing to concede that much to the progs and get so little in return.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And everyone knows why -- because each one you've whined about is Trump serving the Democrat Party from whence he sprang, and your "examples" are where Massie is refusing to concede that much to the progs and get so little in return.

Absolutely false, voting to not investigate the fraud in 2020 was nothing about Trump serving the progs, neither was voting to let Biden raise the debt ceiling, both were Massie doing so, along with all the other examples, like supporting the RINO speaker and so much more.

 

[acptulsa]

...the RINO speaker and so much more.

There's no way to address your more vague and veiled accusations here. But this is the height of hypocrisy coming from someone who excuses every horrible thing Trump does with "playing politics". How can anyone choose a speaker candidate from his own party without playing politics?

 

[acptulsa]

...the RINO speaker and so much more.

There's no way to address your more vague and veiled accusations here. But this is the height of hypocrisy coming from someone who excuses every horrible thing Trump does with "playing politics". How can anyone choose a speaker candidate from his own party without playing politics?

 

[Swordsmyth]

There's no way to address your more vague and veiled accusations here. But this is the height of hypocrisy coming from someone who excuses every horrible thing Trump does with "playing politics". How can anyone choose a speaker candidate from his own party without playing politics?

Trump gets results for liberty and conservatism, Massie gets bupkiss in return for the times he supports the Demoncrats and RINOs.

 

[acptulsa]

Like I said. You're a hypocrite.

You also wouldn't know a boon for liberty if it bit you in the ass. Which is a good thing, really, as you have proven over and over you'll sacrifice liberty on the altar of big government any time you approve of this year's Big Brother.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Like I said. You're a hypocrite.

You also wouldn't know a boon for liberty if it bit you in the ass. Which is a good thing, really, as you have proven over and over you'll sacrifice liberty on the altar of big government any time you approve of this year's Big Brother.

Someone who sells out and supports the enemies of liberty without getting anything for it for liberty is not a boon for liberty, nor is he the same as someone who gets more done for liberty than anyone else in living memory even if he has to compromise sometimes.

 

[acptulsa]

Someone who sells out and supports the enemies of liberty...

As usual, you conflate enemies of Trump with enemies of liberty

I know better.

 

[Swordsmyth]

As usual, you conflate enemies of Trump with enemies of liberty

I know better.

Right, Biden and the radical democrats are the true champions of liberty, along with RINOs like McConnell and McCarthy.

Suuuure.....

 

[acptulsa]

Right, Biden and the radical democrats...

You're saying Massie supported them? How? By voting for Johnson? What?

 

[Swordsmyth]

You're saying Massie supported them? How? By voting for Johnson? What?

By voting to let the debt ceiling out of committee and many other things, like voting against delaying certification of 2020 to investigate fraud.

 

[acptulsa]

By voting to let the debt ceiling out of committee and many other things, like voting against delaying certification of 2020 to investigate fraud.

Lord have mercy, what a spambot you are. You throw this vague garbage out, this ancient history, like we're all supposed to remain cognizant of the minutiae you cling to for the purpose of smearing Massie, and when we go try to look it up, you spam every other thread on the forum.

Tell you what. Since I don't put words in Massie's mouth like you do, I'll keep trying to find his statement on the 2021 Arizona certification amendment. Meanwhile, do you have the decency to say what year the particular debt ceiling vote happened that you're whining about?

 

[acptulsa]

No? You'd rather double down on your baldfaced lies in the Boasberg thread?

Fine. I'll settle for you saying what Trump has really done which is more important to the cause of our liberty than this:

 

[Swordsmyth]

No? You'd rather double down on your baldfaced lies in the Boasberg thread?

Fine. I'll settle for you saying what Trump has really done which is more important to the cause of our liberty than this:

I've posted many thing Trump has done that had a greater effect than Massie repeating what we already knew to people who weren't going to do anything about it.
But just to stick to this topic I'll point to Trump pardoning the victims.

 

[acptulsa]

But just to stick to this topic I'll point to Trump pardoning the victims.

Trump finally getting around to doing something he could have done four years and one week prior is more important to you than making Congress put in the record the fact that J6 was a DOJ false flag?

Dude. Some would excuse Trump's lack of action on, say, January 18, 2021 by whining, he couldn't until somebody made Congress admit those victims were bamboozled by the DOJ. But, you know, whatever.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Trump finally getting around to doing something he could have done four years and one week prior is more important to you than making Congress put in the record the fact that J6 was a DOJ false flag?

Dude. Some would excuse Trump's lack of action on, say, January 18, 2021 by whining, he couldn't until somebody made Congress admit those victims were bamboozled by the DOJ. But, you know, whatever.

Trump politically could not pardon them in the last days of his first term, he'd have been crucified and probably prosecuted under Biden and would have lost or been unable to run in 2024.

It was a good thing Massie did, but much more was done by right wing media to educate the voters in order to influence the squishes in Congress.

And, as I said, Trump did far more important things last time and is doing even more so far this time.

 

[acptulsa]

It was a good thing Massie did, but much more was done by right wing media to educate the voters in order to influence the squishes in Congress.

Not a chance. Lots of people pay attention to Congress. Those of you who lap up Deep State Brainwashing for Right Wingers aren't as numerous as you think. Besides, I don't know how you can be sure they would ever have mentioned Epps if Massie hadn't made a Congressional news item out of him.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Not a chance. Lots of people pay attention to Congress. Those of you who lap up Deep State Brainwashing for Right Wingers aren't as numerous as you think. Besides, I don't know how you can be sure they would ever have mentioned Epps if Massie hadn't made a Congressional news item out of him.

The point is that Congress only pays attention to lots of people, not to mavericks like Massie.
It was the right wing media that woke up and informed the public sufficiently for Congress to listen instead of just ignoring Massie and the facts.

 

[acptulsa]

The point is that Congress only pays attention to lots of people, not to mavericks like Massie.

And lots of people let that Deep State Brainwashing for Right Wingers you love so much ignore a million inconvenient facts. But when Massie airs it in Congress, that this media can't ignore without outing itself.

That was my point. The point on the top of your head no longer interests me.