Postal Service Loses $3.5 Billion in 3rd Quarter

[tpreitzel]

I'm not interested in politics. Thanks for the compliment anyway

You should be. You're a natural. BTW, you're welcome.

 

[Disconsolate]

so if nobody wants to voluntary feed a starving a person, our choice to refuse to feed exceeds his right to life, is that correct?

He can't steal your property.

You can't have a cyclical process of wrongs and some how end up at a right.

That doesn't somehow mean I'm against feeding hungry people. Or that if he beats me up to take my bread I didn't half deserve it. That doesn't make it right though.

 

[WaltM]

He can't steal your property.

Meaning your right to choose exceeds his right to life.

You can't have a cyclical process of wrongs and some how end up at a right.

That doesn't somehow mean I'm against feeding hungry people.

you'd just rather somebody else feed them, not you.

Or that if he beats me up to take my bread I didn't half deserve it. That doesn't make it right though.

if you half deserve it, why isn't it half right?

 

[Disconsolate]

I have no authority to tell others what to do and vice-versa. Human action can have all possible goals from rape to voluntary exchange. They are curbed by the sense of, "while I'd like to rape her, I don't want to live in a place where people could rape me with no repercussion". I don't believe there's any predefined list of rights.

Most enjoy security to what they've accumulated. Most also enjoy being sympathetic to their fellow man. There's no need for violence or force for this to occur.

 

[buffalokid777]

it's 75 cents with first class, 65 cents or less with Priority, even less online.

Delivery conformation is 80 cents retail if you fill out the form at a USPS PO, online it is cheaper, free if you use paypal to print your shipping label. You are quoting older pricing.

 

[WaltM]

I have no authority to tell others what to do and vice-versa.

You certainly have no problem telling people they must respect property, but then you say right to life is below right to property & choice.

Human action can have all possible goals from rape to voluntary exchange. They are curbed by the sense of, "while I'd like to rape her, I don't want to live in a place where people could rape me with no repercussion". I don't believe there's any predefined list of rights.

Cool, we agree on that.

Most enjoy security to what they've accumulated. Most also enjoy being sympathetic to their fellow man. There's no need for violence or force for this to occur.

I agree. And I don't believe there's need for calling government violence.

 

[WaltM]

Delivery conformation is 80 cents retail if you fill out the form at a USPS PO, online it is cheaper, free if you use paypal to print your shipping label.

that sounds about right, even though as recent as last week I got them, and I am pretty sure they're a little less. Might be due to may area?

 

[aldous_snow]

Walt, if the USPS does it so well, why are FEDEX and UPS and DHL in business?



So seriously, fuck all of you guys participating in this god-awful 8 page excuse for a thread that should have ended seven and a half pages ago. I read the first four, and almost had to go kill myself because of the retardedness. I don't even know what you guys are arguing about now, but Jesus Christ.

 

[aldous_snow]

I'm sorry, 9 pages.

 

[Disconsolate]

You certainly have no problem telling people they must respect property, but then you say right to life is below right to property & choice.

People enjoy making their own decisions. This typically follows into making decisions about what is done with their own property.

You don't have to respect property. Just don't expect others to respect your property.

If someone wants to start a town where you just beat each other up and take your stuff, great. I highly doubt anyone will want to live there, but more power to you.

 

[WaltM]

Walt, if the USPS does it so well, why are FEDEX and UPS and DHL in business?

They're not perfect. They handle different markets and functions.

So seriously, fuck all of you guys participating in this god-awful 8 page excuse for a thread that should have ended seven and a half pages ago. I read the first four, and almost had to go kill myself because of the retardedness. I don't even know what you guys are arguing about now, but Jesus Christ.

yeah, me neither.

 

[WaltM]

People enjoy making their own decisions. This typically follows into making decisions about what is done with their own property.

You don't have to respect property. Just don't expect others to respect your property.

If someone wants to start a town where you just beat each other up and take your stuff, great. I highly doubt anyone will want to live there, but more power to you.

fair enough.

so you believe in voluntaryism, but only insofar as it affects you, you dont believe in having an authority to impose rights and voluntary choice on others?

 

[aldous_snow]

They're not perfect. They handle different markets and functions.

do the private companies even do any significant volume of letters, I wonder?

 

[Disconsolate]

fair enough.

so you believe in voluntaryism, but only insofar as it affects you, you dont believe in having an authority to impose rights and voluntary choice on others?

How would I impose a voluntary choice on someone else D:

I know it's fantasy, but I want to live in a world where coercion is so costly it's almost non-existant. Only freely interacting individuals can achieve this, not some leviathan "protector of rights".

Or, to steal from Rothbard:
"I define anarchist society as one where there is no legal possibility for coercive aggression against the person or property of any individual."

 

[buffalokid777]

that sounds about right, even though as recent as last week I got them, and I am pretty sure they're a little less. Might be due to may area?

Delivery Conformation Pricing

http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm

70-80 cents retail, 19 cents electronic.

It used to be free for priority mail, but not no more,

I have shipped many thousands of packages, I know my stuff on this subject, I could probably step into a job in USPS as a counter person with zip for training,

When I do ship something through USPS, I can tell the clerk there is nothing liquid, hazardous or perishable, a question they must always ask when accepting your package (Ive heard that question at least a 1000 times)

 

[WaltM]

Delivery Conformation Pricing

http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm

70-80 cents retail, 19 cents electronic.

It used to be free for priority mail, but not no more,

I have shipped many thousands of packages, I know my stuff on this subject, I could probably step into a job in USPS as a counter person with zip for training,

When I do ship something through USPS, I can tell the clerk there is nothing liquid, hazardous or perishable, a question they must always ask when accepting your package (Ive heard that question at least a 1000 times)

pretty much same here.



Nothing liquid, fragile, perishable, or potentially hazardous.

 

[angelatc]

pretty much same here.



Nothing liquid, fragile, perishable, or potentially hazardous.

I never even talk to the people at the post office. The big advantage of printing postage from the PC is that it allows me to just sit it on the counter or drop it in the big bin at CHristmas.

 

[buffalokid777]

I never even talk to the people at the post office. The big advantage of printing postage from the PC is that it allows me to just sit it on the counter or drop it in the big bin at CHristmas.

Unfortunately, due to security measures, larger packages must be brought to the post office, because the terrorists are out to get us. There used to be a bin to dump off packages at USPS, now I have to wait in line to send them, and for any international shipments. Welcome to Amerika, the USSA.

 

[angelatc]

Unfortunately, due to security measures, larger packages must be brought to the post office, because the terrorists are out to get us. There used to be a bin to dump off packages at USPS, now I have to wait in line to send them, and for any international shipments. Welcome to Amerika, the USSA.

If you're using an electronic service, like through Paypal or Stamps.com, you are indeed allowed to bypass the lines and just slide them up on the counter.

 

[buffalokid777]

If you're using an electronic service, like through Paypal or Stamps.com, you are indeed allowed to bypass the lines and just slide them up on the counter.

Not at my local post offices, if it won't fit in a mailbox, or through the slot, they tell you to get in line.