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that is information we absolutely would NOT want to give out.
Possible Delegate Counts So Far
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that is information we absolutely would NOT want to give out.
The names of the NH delegates are available on the NH Elections web site. Romney has 7, Paul 3, and Huntsman 2. Since Huntsman has dropped out, his 2 delegates are now unbound and free to vote for whom they want. Outside of those 2, NH has no other unpledged delegates, because their delegate count was cut in 1/2 by the RNC.
Huntsman suspended his campaign and did not officially withdraw. Are his delegates unbound?
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I haven't spent much time tracking counts in the last few years, was the best source I ran into so far. I'd love a more consistent one if you have a link
And this is why we need to get our people as pledged delegates even if they're for the other campaigns. Those could have been 2 delegates for paul if we played this right, but if they were both huntsmen loyalists and follow the candidate then i guess they'll go to mitt romney. =/
Why not? This sort of thing ought to be public knowledge. I mean if we get the delegates at the district or state level, and we get something about restricting presidential war powers on the state republican platform as well as opposing the raising of the debt ceiling and having a balanced federal budget, that would be a HUGE victory. That would give an idea of our influence.
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I haven't spent much time tracking counts in the last few years, was the best source I ran into so far. I'd love a more consistent one if you have a link
I guess they are good at tracking the actual delegates that have been assigned, which is fine, but it doesn't give an accurate picture of delegate counts. Anyway, maybe it's not so bad.
In NH, each candidate submitted a list of delegates to the Secretary of State. It's highly unlikely any Ron Paul supporter could have made it onto Huntsman's lists of delegates.
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Bummer that.
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Oh yeah I use it more for refs of dates and times, the soft count I tend to take with a grain (read: spoon full) of salt.
Also if anyone has threads that may belong in my first two posts let me know
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Bump for a moral boost
Usually you vote for delegates on the ballot at the primary, thats why its important to know who these delegates support.
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Indeed.
That's some complicated shite. I hope Ron has "Simplify the freakin' election process!!" on his Presidential To-Do list.
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Ok this is an awesome thread because I know many of us are very upset over Washington and Ron Paul still not "winning one state yet" I would definitely believe we are very very very strong in the delegate count, and I'm very very happy about that!!! So my question to those of you who are in the know, with all the funny stuff going on in these election to date, how can we be sure that this funny business will not happen at the next level??? I really have no idea how this whole election process works, but I really need to know that we will not have to worry about funny stuff when it comes time at the next level of the election process. Can someone help me here??? Will it be harder for them to rig the process at the next level??? Thank you for this thread because it keeps my eye on the prize!!!! This should be a sticky so that the rest of Ron Paul supporters also keep their eye on the prize.. It is frustrating that we haven't won one beauty contest yet, but we should all keep in mind we are fighting a very very very ugly beast who will stop at nothing to make sure Ron does not get anywhere near the GOP nomination!! The more I look at it, the more I think the campaigns strategy is an EXCELLENT ONE!!!! Because I'm sure they are well aware of the funny business they are facing and they know ultimately how they can get around the funny stuff that has been taking place. NO ON BUT PAUL FOR ME!!!
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143 is pretty good for only around 10 states into it. I would hope the goal would be to get over 500 by the convention.
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I hope he gets over a hundred, hopefully closer to two hundred. I think there are 416 at stake.
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The delegate assumptions in this thread are so out of touch with reality that I think none of you were delegates to any state conventions four years ago.
The OP estimates 20 delegates out of Iowa when we came in third place with 20% in the straw poll. Are you serious? Even if we ended up with more delegates than any other candidate in the Iowa state convention, the Paul delegation will still be a minority. They're going to have to fight to get ANY delegates to national. You guys don't know how it works.
In Alaska Ron Paul had around 30% of the total delegates to the State convention. Based on the party rules and the primary vote, we should have been sending 11 Ron Paul delegates to national. We almost got NONE, and it was a real battle to end up with the five we DID send. I was there. I remember how we outnumbered any other delegation massively. But the other 70% of the party united to BLOCK US.
Bottom line: Unless we have over 50% of the delegates going to the Iowa state convention, there's no chance in HELL we're going to walk away with 20 Iowa delegates to national. And if we DO have over 50% of the delegates? Well, then there's no reason we shouldn't get ALL of Iowa's delegates (and the party will go thermonuclear on us). But I don't think we'll have over 50% of the delegates in ANY state. It's going to be a battle everywhere.
The OP estimates 20 delegates out of Iowa when we came in third place with 20% in the straw poll. Are you serious? Even if we ended up with more delegates than any other candidate in the Iowa state convention, the Paul delegation will still be a minority. They're going to have to fight to get ANY delegates to national. You guys don't know how it works.
In Alaska Ron Paul had around 30% of the total delegates to the State convention. Based on the party rules and the primary vote, we should have been sending 11 Ron Paul delegates to national. We almost got NONE, and it was a real battle to end up with the five we DID send. I was there. I remember how we outnumbered any other delegation massively. But the other 70% of the party united to BLOCK US.
Bottom line: Unless we have over 50% of the delegates going to the Iowa state convention, there's no chance in HELL we're going to walk away with 20 Iowa delegates to national. And if we DO have over 50% of the delegates? Well, then there's no reason we shouldn't get ALL of Iowa's delegates (and the party will go thermonuclear on us). But I don't think we'll have over 50% of the delegates in ANY state. It's going to be a battle everywhere.
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