Poll: Nearly 40% of Likely Republican Caucus-Goers Consider Islam Inherently Violent

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Poll: Nearly 40% of Likely Republican Caucus-Goers Consider Islam Inherently Violent

The view is bound to shape the 2016 debate.

Two out of five Republicans likely to participate in Iowa's presidential caucuses say they are inclined to view Islam as an inherently violent religion that inspires brutality by its followers, according to a new Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll.

Twice as many Democrats—along with a majority of Republicans—say they view the world's second largest religion as inherently peaceful, the poll found.

The divisions, coming after the Charlie Hebdo killings in France and and the Islamic State's beheadings of several Western prisoners, may shape the way White House hopefuls from both parties address Islamic militancy, both in terms of fighting threats abroad and balancing freedom of religion and expression with security concerns.

In the poll, conducted Jan. 26-29, 402 likely Republican caucus-goers and 401 likely Democratic caucus-goers were asked: “When it comes to the Islamic faith, which of the following is closer to your view?” They were given two choices: “Islam is an inherently violent religion, which leads its followers to violent acts” and “Islam is an inherently peaceful religion, but there are some who twist its teachings to justify violence.”

Fifty-three percent of likely Republican caucus participants and 81 percent of likely Democratic caucus participants said they believe Islam is inherently peaceful. Only 13 percent of likely Democratic caucus participants said they view Islam as inherently violent, compared with 39 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

Religion, age, and location were important factors in shaping respondents' views. “There are four demographic groups in which the dominant opinion is that Islam is inherently violent: those who describe themselves as very conservative (62 percent), seniors (53 percent), those who live in rural areas (52 percent), and born-again Christians (51 percent),” said J. Ann Selzer, president of West Des Moines-based Selzer & Co., which conducted the poll. “Those are the constituencies that drive up the overall percentage among likely Republican caucus-goers.”

In either party, Selzer said, “the majority do not damn the whole religion for the actions of a few.” Still, among Republicans, “you have more than one in three that considers it a violent religion.”

Charles Coffey, 65, Garden Grove, Iowa, is in that group. The retired driver, who is Christian, said that “over the centuries even those who know Christ as savior have committed acts of war. But the Islamic religion has basically been assaultive on society since day one: 'Either you agree with us or we'll destroy you.'” In Coffey's view, extremists' acts of terrorism, plus what he sees as unfair treatment of women by Muslim men and governments, both seem to him to spring from the Islamic faith, though he added: “Don't get me wrong, I don't know that terribly much about it.”

He was surprised to learn his view isn't held by a majority of likely Republican caucus-goers in his state. “You're kidding me,” Coffey said. “I thought more people were paying attention than that.”

Coffey favors Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, the Republican frontrunner in the poll, saying that part of Walker's appeal is his reputation for not bowing to political correctness. Coffey said if he were to hear Walker talking about Islam being a peaceful religion, it would give him pause. “I'd have to have second thoughts about that, I really would,” he said.

In an appearance Sunday on ABC's This Week, Walker didn't address religion when he said he's open to sending U.S. troops to the Middle East to fight the Islamic State in a “surgical” operation. He said that “aggressively, we need to take the fight to ISIS and any other radical Islamic terrorist in and around the world” and that it's not a question of where but when radicals attempt an attack on U.S. soil.

Taking the opposite view from Coffey was Alex Bellings, 27, a customer-service worker from Coralville and likely Republican caucus-goer who sees Islam as a peaceful religion. Bellings, who studied international and religious studies in college, said he thinks age makes “a big difference” in people's viewpoints.

“I have a very good friend who is a member of the Islam faith,” he said. “Certainly, we've had many in-depth discussion about Islam and America. And I think taking classes in far Eastern religions and understanding the cultures has been very helpful to me in coming to my own conclusions about things.”

In fact, a majority of Republicans younger than age 45, 63 percent, said they viewed Islam as inherently peaceful. Those age 45 and older were evenly split, with 46 percent saying they thought the religion was inherently violent and and 45 percent saying they thought it was peaceful.

Bellings' early favorites among 2016 prospects are Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor and minister. He said he likes Huckabee because “even though he carries his religion on his sleeve, it doesn't seem to get in the way of his making rational or well thought-out decisions.”

By contrast, Bellings said former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, another Christian conservative, doesn't appeal to him because it “seems like religion is the driving force with every decision he makes.”

Santorum has been among the most outspoken potential candidates on the issue. In November at Virginia's Liberty University, he said Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama “have given all Muslims a pass.” Santorum added that “I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists, nor do I say that all Muslims support terrorism,” but that in his view the threat from Islamic terrorists to the U.S. is “rooted in the belief in an all-powerful God and has over a billion adherents who are taught that their faith supersedes all other faith. In one form or another, Islam has been warring with western civilization for 1,300 years.”

The poll found a wider gap in the views of likely GOP caucus-goers who are women (35 percent say inherently violent, 56 percent say inherently peaceful) than among men (42-50). Similarly, those likely Republican caucus attendees with a college education were more likely to say the religion is inherently peaceful, 58-35, than those without a college education, who were basically tied, 44-45.

Where Iowa Republicans are divided, likely Democratic caucus-goers in the survey responded overwhelmingly with a view of inherently peaceful Islam that holds across gender, age, and educational differences. “I've just always felt like most religions, if they follow the Golden Rule, they are inherently peaceful,” said June McMahill, 79, a Hillary Clinton supporter. “There's always been extremists and radical elements, even in the Christian faith, the Crusades and those types of things.”

“In France, there's a backlash starting” against Muslims, McMahill said. “It's bound to affect our thoughts and feelings, and I'm sure Republicans are going to be taking a tougher stance on it” than Democrats.

“Everyone's going to have to raise their awareness, but not to the point of being phobic about it. You have to have some concern and not be blindsided but not be overreacting, either. Most of our Muslim people here are going to be fine, upstanding and just as concerned as the rest of us are,” she said.

She thinks her views also are influenced by geography, she said. Her hometown, Glenwood, sits not far from the Nebraska line and Offutt Air Force Base, and as a result, “maybe we've been exposed a little bit more” to diversity through the U.S. military, she said.

Dennis Goldford, a political science professor at Drake University in Des Moines, said voters' evolving views on Islam and its relationship to terrorism may well influence the debate, particularly in the Republican caucuses. In poll results released earlier this week, a quarter of likely Republican caucus-goers identified terrorism as the most important issue for the next president to address, compared to 10 percent of Democrats.

What's unclear is how candidates will address the issue, or whether it will play a more indirect role in campaign messaging, perhaps by adding pressure on libertarian-leaning candidates such as Paul to abandon isolationist strategies.

“There is a side of the party that feels the country is under attack by both the immigration issue and the Islamic terrorism issue and they want a solution,” Goldford said.

The 39 percent in the Iowa Republican sample who see the Islamic faith as violent are “a pretty big chunk,” he added. “So you certainly have to address their concerns. The question is not whether they'll address it, it's how they address it. And Democrats will have to deal with this, in terms of the general election certainly.”

Imam Johari Adbul-Malik, the outreach director at Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., said he was encouraged by the fact that majorities in both parties considered Islam to be peaceful.

“We're trending in the right direction,” he said. “On balance, I think it's more good news than bad news.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...aucus-goers-consider-islam-inherently-violent
 
How many Muslims killed and maimed by Muslims have there been so far, just this century?

Inherently? Maybe.
 
The other 60% are idiots who believe what George Bush told them.

Mohammad was a mass murderer, a pedophile, a thief, a liar, a raving madman, and all-around despicable person. He is also the example of how Muslims are supposed to behave. Neither of these facts can be honestly disputed.

However, the inherent nature of Islam is a totally separate issue from that of whether we should be in a state of perpetual war around the globe. Libertarians monitoring this issue should not get themselves trapped into a defense of Islam, as that position is not tenable and is actually a severely anti-libertarian position (since under Islam there is no such thing as liberty).
 
By the numbers:

Weekly Jihad Report
Jan 24 - Jan 30
Jihad Attacks:
61

Allah Akbars*:
6

Dead Bodies:
508

Critically Injured:
546

*Suicide Attacks

Mind you, America looks to be inherently violent too.
 
The other 60% are idiots who believe what George Bush told them.

Mohammad was a mass murderer, a pedophile, a thief, a liar, a raving madman, and all-around despicable person. He is also the example of how Muslims are supposed to behave. Neither of these facts can be honestly disputed.

However, the inherent nature of Islam is a totally separate issue from that of whether we should be in a state of perpetual war around the globe. Libertarians monitoring this issue should not get themselves trapped into a defense of Islam, as that position is not tenable and is actually a severely anti-libertarian position (since under Islam there is no such thing as liberty).

You are making no sense and just rambling on with your prejudice. There is nothing inherent about Islam, but for a loosely defined set of rules or morals, as per the Quran. These moral insights are given in poetic verses which are rarely clear cut to interpret. Suffice to say, a wise man will find wisdom in them. A madman will find some ways to twist it into something more devious.

Note that Islam has no central structure (it's entirely decentralized) or orthodoxy, and there is no agreement between the many thousand schools and sects within the religion on how to interpret these verses. Please also note that many of these schools of interpretation often draw conclusions from traditional arabic customs. For instance, there is nothing in the quran that requires women to cover their hair or their face, but since desert-arab traditional customs have called for it, they deduct that the "modesty for women" prescribed in some of the verses should also meaning that they need to cover up and so forth. Other schools of thought are more enlightened, some dabble with mysticism etc.

I can agree that the Wahhabi/Salafist (Saudi-Arabia, Al-Qaeda, ISIS) school within Islam is inherently violent, since it doesn't accept any of the other interpretations - and calls for their conversion by sword. (and of course non-religious people and "infidels") This brand of Islam has grown to prominence lately with Saudi oil money and adoption of modern terror tactics.
 
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Poll was taken before ISIS burned that Jordanian pilot. It's probably 60% now.

More exactly, video footage of the burning provided from a known CIA front group attributes the burning to ISIS. The burning could have been done by other persons upset over the pilot's bombing and burning of other people before he was captured, with ISIS taking credit for the video. In like fashion, such polls omit the blowback or covert ops context of the violence, and the peaceful tendencies of many orthodox (read 'radical') Muslim countries, such as Iran, who haven't launched aggression against another country in 200 years.

So, "Muslims are crazy, they're threatening and scaring us with terror from 8 time zones away, so let's go kill some more brown people." This propaganda construct is perfect in fomenting perpetual war or intervention, since radical Islamists and terrorism will always exist. Look for more waves of fear rhetoric, and omissions of blowback and false flags, to plow the field for shaping more opinion polls like in the OP. The whole point of the out of context coverage or outright manufactured events, is to manufacture the opinion and policy consensus to justify endless intervention.
 
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This apology by libs then for Iraq war seems like enduring apt punishment for GOP suopporters of Iraq freedom invasion slash racial bloodbath revenge attack. From that angle, maybe Obama has been the right medicine.


Poll: 46% of GOP thinks Obama's Muslim
www.politico.com › Josh GersteinPolitico
Aug 19, 2010 - But one number that could catch significant attention is this: in the Time poll, 46 percent of Republicans said they believe Obama is a Muslim.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0810/Poll_46_of_GOP_thinks_Obamas_Muslim.html


Silver lining here maybe that almost half of GOP for last 7 years has been living under the presidency of an Islamic man. That then would serve as a powerful deterrant against future US invasions into mideast if they can be told that the last time they supported invasion of a mideast country based on lies, America got under the rule of a muslim.



Poll was taken before ISIS burned that Jordanian pilot. It's probably 60% now.

Yea, that was display of sheer violent savagery that probably bends GOP's peace lovin minds.

"If you're going to burn people alive, have the courtesy to do it from 1000s of miles away."
 
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Let's be honest - 90% of Republicans are what a lot of us would consider complete idiots, as in they vote for neocons over Ron. It is cause of this that it's hard to fault Rand for doing a lot of the things he's doing as he first of all has to get their votes before he can do anything.
 
The MSM propaganda machine, especially from Fox News (like Hannity) is apparently effective.
 
Is ISIS a bunch of murderous scum? Yes. Are they unique in that respect? Hardly. Are all Muslims running around killing people? Just a small percentage.
 
The difficulty for me, as a Christian who knows a lot about Islam, is to differentiate myself from these other statist "Christians" who want war all the time. But I absolutely agree that Islam is an inherently violent worldview. It is an inherently statist worldview. These facts are undeniable. Islam is a mosque-state conception of the world. There is nothing a Muslim can do to change that except to deny Islam altogether.
 
The difficulty for me, as a Christian who knows a lot about Islam, is to differentiate myself from these other statist "Christians" who want war all the time. But I absolutely agree that Islam is an inherently violent worldview. It is an inherently statist worldview. These facts are undeniable. Islam is a mosque-state conception of the world. There is nothing a Muslim can do to change that except to deny Islam altogether.

Its not too hard. Islam is a violent worldview. But, that doesn't mean the Muslims hate us because we are free. They hate us because of the western influence on Islamic society, especially militaristic influence.
 
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