Poll: Denying Trump nomination would cost GOP in November

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...rump-supporters-will-leave-gop-if-hes-blocked

Blocking Donald Trump from the Republican presidential nomination with a contested convention would spell disaster for the GOP, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found Saturday.

One-third of Republicans Trump supporters said they would not support the party in the general election if the businessman is blocked from the nomination. They said they would instead vote Democrat, vote third-party or sit out the election.
Sixty-six percent said they would support the GOP's nominee anyway.

A contested convention could hurt the GOP in November no matter what, the poll found. Fifty-eight percent of Trump supporters said they would stay with the party, while 16 percent would leave and 26 percent said they didn't know.

The poll surveyed 468 Republican Trump supporters and has a margin of error of 5.3 percentage points.

 

[CPUd]

Pretty much the same (but slightly higher) as the number of people who would do the same if Trump were the nominee.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Pretty much the same (but slightly higher) as the number of people who would do the same if Trump were the nominee.

Wow, I didn't realize there were that many neocons/globalists.

 

[CPUd]

Wow, I didn't realize there were that many neocons/globalists.

There aren't. But there are a whole hell of a lot of conservatives.

 

[Ronin Truth]

The GOP just may figure it's worth the risk. <shrug>

 

[jmdrake]

Wow, I didn't realize there were that many neocons/globalists.

So Ron Paul is now a neocon/globalist? Because Ron Paul is on record as not supporting Trump even if he gets the nomination.

Sorry but many people don't want to support someone who:

1) Lied about being against the Iraq war from the beginning.
2) Supported a total assault weapons ban in 2000 and only changed positions on that to run for president.
3) Urged for the intervention in Libya which helped create ISIS
4) Called Hillary Clinton the best secretary of state ever
5) Thinks eminent domain for private developers is a "great" thing
6) Thinks TARP was necessary
7) Wants to bring back most of the illegal aliens he's supposedly going to deport "rapidly" and can't make up his mind on H1B Visas

 

[69360]

This happens every time. "I won't vote if (my candidate) doesn't win". But they toe the party line come November. The numbers are likely exaggerated and it probably doesn't matter anyway, Trump loses to Clinton big time in every poll.

The GOP screwed itself by not nipping this Trump thing in the bud before it got this far. They are screwed either way now, Trump wins it and causes the GOP to lose on a Goldwater scale or Trump gets the nomination stolen in favor of an electable candidate who loses by a few percent because of hardcore trumpsters. Probably the only hope for the GOP in November is Clinton gets indicted (unlikely), Cruz wins outright (unlikely), Cruz wins on a second ballot (possible).

 

[Bossobass]

So Ron Paul is now a neocon/globalist? Because Ron Paul is on record as not supporting Trump even if he gets the nomination.

This is another irrelevant statement that you seem fond of.

Sorry, but many people don't want to support someone who:

No need to apologize for having the minority opinion in the matter.

 

[donnay]

The shenanigans emerging should be a wake-up call proving there is lots of corruption in the political arena. Their arrogance will be their undoing.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

See point 3 below from this relevant article. The GOP planned to drop this election with or without the Trump factor, to set up a Ryan/Rubio ticket in 2020:

The Trouble with Trump’s 3rd party threats
Apr. 10, 2016
A Y

1) Ballot access

Trump doesn’t need to get on the ballot in all 50 states.

He needs ~28: The 24 that Romney won, plus FL, OH, MI, and NJ, PA and/or VA.

Ballot requirements differ from state-to-state, but meeting them is pretty uniformly impossible at this late stage.

In FL, for example, Trump would need 100,000 signatures by July 15. In TX, 80,000 by May 9.

And it would cost about a million bucks...

2) Sore Loser Laws

Many states preclude “sore losers” from running as independents in the general election...

3) The GOP doesn’t care if he runs 3rd party

A robust 3rd party candidacy hands the election to Hillary– that’s Trump’s leverage.

One problem: The GOP est. doesn’t care. They figure to lose with or without Trump– so why not just pull off the band-aid?

Besides, a Hillary victory kills 3 birds with 1 stone…
It is exceedingly rare for parties to hold the WH for 4 consecutive terms (2, 2-term presidencies): Reagan’s popularity could only get H.W. elected once, Clinton’s electoral success didn’t translate to Gore.

GOP party elders are salivating at Ryan-Rubio vs. a 72-year-old Hillary Clinton in 2020– a cakewalk, in their minds.
A Hillary presidency almost certainly takes gay marriage and amnesty off the table– among the GOP consultancy class’s top priorities.

GOP operatives are more than happy to let Hillary do it, so they don’t have to.
Ted Cruz, and many of the policies he shares with Trump, will have been thoroughly repudiated.

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2016/04/10/trouble-w-trump-threatening-3rd-party/

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Nominating Trump would make it even harder for them to win.

 

[Ender]

So Ron Paul is now a neocon/globalist? Because Ron Paul is on record as not supporting Trump even if he gets the nomination.

Sorry but many people don't want to support someone who:

1) Lied about being against the Iraq war from the beginning.
2) Supported a total assault weapons ban in 2000 and only changed positions on that to run for president.
3) Urged for the intervention in Libya which helped create ISIS
4) Called Hillary Clinton the best secretary of state ever
5) Thinks eminent domain for private developers is a "great" thing
6) Thinks TARP was necessary
7) Wants to bring back most of the illegal aliens he's supposedly going to deport "rapidly" and can't make up his mind on H1B Visas

Go figure.

 

[brushfire]

Any way they lose... Like a brainectomy... Whether they leave a little bit more of the brain-stem or not, how is one scenario any better than the other?

#RIPGOP - lets get it over with already.

Send your protest votes to the libertarian party - beat the 15% rule and better equip yourself for the next battle. Any one of these fktards, dem or rep, will create a gaping void for a viable libertarian run. Why not make it count? If you have to hold your nose in protest, do so for someone like Gary Johnson. What other strategy has been working? Strike now, while the a$$holes are on their heals - NOBODY will succeed over the next term, and we can clean some house (assuming we're still here at all).

Vote smarter, not harder.

 

[LibertyEagle]

So Ron Paul is now a neocon/globalist? Because Ron Paul is on record as not supporting Trump even if he gets the nomination.

I said nothing about Ron Paul, but I am wondering about some others.

 

[erowe1]

I said nothing about Ron Paul, but I am wondering about some others.

Were you not aware that Ron Paul has said he won't vote for Trump?

 

[LibertyEagle]

There aren't. But there are a whole hell of a lot of conservatives.

Like Ron? Ok. You did realize Ron was a conservative, right? Yeah, thought you did.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Were you not aware that Ron Paul has said he won't vote for Trump?

Do you feel like Ron Paul supporters must vote lock-step with Ron Paul?

I love Ron Paul, and love everything he has done.

But I don't agree with his assessment of Trump, and what a Trump presidency might look like.

Personally, I like the wrecking ball potential. I don't really care what he's saying. If a Trump presidency explodes politics as we know it, and creates potential for average Americans to wake up and demand some changes - I see that as a good thing.

I surely don't think a Trump presidency would make things worse than they are right now. And I feel confident a Hillary or Cruz presidency *would* make things worse.

Bernie? not sure....

 

[jmdrake]

I said nothing about Ron Paul, but I am wondering about some others.

You made a general statement about people who are not going to vote for Trump. Ron Paul is on record as not being willing to vote for Trump. That means that you can decide not to vote for Trump, even in the general election, and not be a globalist or neocon. Your statement is analogous to those who note how many republicans are voting for Trump and saying "Well that just means there are a lot of racists in the GOP."

 

[jmdrake]

Like Ron? Ok. You did realize Ron was a conservative, right? Yeah, thought you did.

Umm......you realize you just put your foot in your mouth? CPUd's point about there being a lot of conservatives is that many conservatives, like Ron Paul, do not support Donald Trump.

 

[jmdrake]

This is another irrelevant statement that you seem fond of.

Wrong. It's totally relevant. LibertyEagle painted people who don't support Donald Trump with the broad brush of being neocons/globalists. Ron Paul doesn't support Donald Trump and he's not a globalist or a neocon. Many people don't support Donald Trump for the same reason Ron Paul doesn't support Donald Trump. Technically what LibertyEagle did was a violation of the forum rules that she is lately raising every time anyone says anything negative about Trump supporters. She doesn't like people calling Trump supporters "Cute names" but she's willing to call Trump opponents neocons and globalists?

No need to apologize for having the minority opinion in the matter.

Right. The majority is already right. 8 years of Obama proves that.