Politics and violence

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9/11, Charlie Kirk, and Political Violence Everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPFLaaGEWg
{Mises Media | 11 September 2025}

Poser and Market podcast (2025-09-11)

From interstate wars to local stabbings, violence is the ultimate expression of political action.

[audio (mp3): https://cdn.mises.org/2025-09/16-P&M-20250911.mp3]



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Political violence is acceptable.

That is the social contract as practiced, not as advertised.

It's dressed up in votes and filings, but every statute rides on threats, every order ends with men who can cage you, seize your money, or kill you if you resist far enough.

That is why people panic when their rivals win. On some level they know power means the power to force, so they feel endangered by the other side’s victory.

The outrage is real, the story is fake. Politics is sold as civility. In practice it is anything but.

“Do not kill over politics,” they say, yet in the next breath they celebrate policies that lock strangers in cells for plants, taxes, and speech.

If your neighbor dragged you out of your house and into their basement for working without the proper permission slip, you would cut ties or fight back. When he votes for someone else to do it, you are told to be civil.

The act is the same, only outsourced. Society has normalized violence by proxy and then people pretend to be shocked when violence breaks costume.

This is why appeals to unity ring hollow. People are told to keep relationships intact across political lines while those lines decide what their bodies, money, and children can be used for without consent.

You can feel the dishonesty in your gut. If someone backs a system that will punish you for peaceful choices, it feels wrong to simply treat that as a harmless preference.

Reality is, most people are fine with force when their side holds the baton, they call it barbaric when the other side swings it.

They should just admit they prefer using the state to make others obey and stop pretending ballots are pacifist.

Only then are we dealing with reality.

 
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Political violence is acceptable when government is lording over you and taking your livelihood away and fundamentally changing the way your family has to conduct themselves.

Charlie Kirk was doing none of that. He had opinions and was advocating for a certain way of life that the left didn't agree with.
I don't think any of us on here, and certainly no Republican I know, would actually go and shoot a leftist organizer who was simply pushing their organization along.
 
I don't think any of us on here, and certainly no Republican I know, would actually go and shoot a leftist organizer who was simply pushing their organization along.

Well, yes, I agree that libertarians are nearly 100% more likely to live and let live than Che Guevara fans. And yes, most Republicans lean our way at least a little more than most Democrats.

But there are forces at work turning impressionable young people into Manchurian Candidates. And friend, nobody is immune. This boy was raised by a southern Utah deputy sheriff to be a good Republican, but somehow he failed to give his son the moral center he needed to resist evil. There are people on both sides of the aisle who have been getting high on their moral high ground, and need to sober up.
 


Brilliant to connect this back to redistribution because that is the root cause of leftist violence. Yeah, they also love violence for its own sake, but a movement has to have material resources to continue for any amount of time, and leftism feeds on redistribution.
 
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