Politico pretending: "Ron Paul: End U.S. student loans"

[sailingaway]

I know why the AP ran with it; but I get the impression this might backfire on them. Just think of all those with student loan debts and no job that are regretting getting those non-dischargeable debts into slavery. They are only non-dischargeable because they are govt loans. A LOT of them are probably gonna read this and say, "he's right".

They are trying to get the occupy types to stop looking to him. Most don't but some do. and they should.

The left desperately wants Occupy to become THEIR tea party.

 

[sailingaway]

It doesn't?

What's up with that?

You can't do it at the height of the cost bubble, you have to transition. And his plan was to show that a real start didn't have to be scary.

 

[69360]

I know why the AP ran with it; but I get the impression this might backfire on them. Just think of all those with student loan debts and no job that are regretting getting those non-dischargeable debts into slavery. They are only non-dischargeable because they are govt loans. A LOT of them are probably gonna read this and say, "he's right".

AP went with it as a scare tactic, they bank on people that are dependent on government.

But you do have a point, there is a building backlash against being straddled with crushing student loan debt.

 

[erowe1]

You can't do it at the height of the cost bubble

Why not?

 

[sailingaway]

Why not?

because it is too disruptive to immediate education plans to be accepted. No plan goes forward if it is not accepted.

 

[Edu]

Wow, they are really grasping at straws here. Ron Paul always says "phase out" and transition and things like that, then these people take it as on/off, you either have the energy department or you don't.

It's amazing how many times Ron has to school these people that don't bother to read his plan.

 

[theczar1776]

As usual Ron brings up an issue that needs to be discussed. Because the government subsidizes education, the market place is not able to counsel people on what field they should enter to assure a good living. The colleges and teachers love it. Because of the loose money they have so many more consumers than they would otherwise have or deserve. The quality of education suffers because its value is undermined. Students are lulled into the idea that if they have an education, however costly, they will be assured employment. Can you say education industry? Another feeder at the trough of big government. Everybody will be all abuzz about it and after the dust has settled, people will realize that Ron is right. Ron makes everybody think and that is an excellent thing!

 

[Edu]

As usual Ron brings up an issue that needs to be discussed. Because the government subsidizes education, the market place is not able to counsel people on what field they should enter to assure a good living. The colleges and teachers love it. Because of the loose money they have so many more consumers than they would otherwise have or deserve. The quality of education suffers because its value is undermined. Students are lulled into the idea that if they have an education, however costly, they will be assured employment. Can you say education industry? Another feeder at the trough of big government. Everybody will be all abuzz about it and after the dust has settled, people will realize that Ron is right. Ron makes everybody think and that is an excellent thing!

You are right on.

When the students have deep pockets due to the funding, these colleges grow like a big government department, they add unneeded staff, pay them outrageous salaries, and add a lot of fluff so they can keep that unending supply of money coming.

That's the distorted market he was talking about.

 

[sailingaway]

This story is being outright run as if Ron said he'd eliminate student loans. It is SUCH A LIE. Unlike when they lie to say he'd eliminate social security however, students read the internet and if they are interested presumably will find the truth.

 

[ItsTime]

Come on guys, the media is doing the best they can, ease up on them, they are our friends /sarcasm.

 

[cdc482]

The media has a low opinion of us college students. They think that we will vote for whoever gives us the most free stuff, but in reality, we're not that selfish. We are smart enough to know what's right, and that's what we'll vote for.

 

[greeksta59]

One of the comments in the article posted this, which I think hit the nail on the head

"The student loan program is not part of those cuts,"

And the story is therefor fearmongering.

He made it clear he was talking about ending them only after he had ended the price bubble created by government funding which is the reason a kid can't work their way through college as he did himself. So that was a philosophical view, unlike his program, which takes 3 years to balance the budget, leaving not enough time in a presidential term to get to cutting student loans.

 

[specsaregood]

One of the comments in the article posted this, which I think hit the nail on the head
"The student loan program is not part of those cuts,"
And the story is therefor fearmongering.

And the fact that this is what they chose to run with (something so easily fact checkable that they have to fact-check themselves in the article) demonstrates how well he did in that interview.

 

[sailingaway]

One of the comments in the article posted this, which I think hit the nail on the head

"The student loan program is not part of those cuts,"

And the story is therefor fearmongering.

He made it clear he was talking about ending them only after he had ended the price bubble created by government funding which is the reason a kid can't work their way through college as he did himself. So that was a philosophical view, unlike his program, which takes 3 years to balance the budget, leaving not enough time in a presidential term to get to cutting student loans.

yezz that was mine....

 

[seapilot]

Come on guys, the media is doing the best they can, ease up on them, they are our friends /sarcasm.

Friends like that who needs enemies? The czar1776 comment was spot on about student loans.

The OWS people from what Ive read many do not get the connection that the Big Financial Banks OWN the Government. This was obvious for all to see when over 75% of the US populace was against TARP and the rats that voted for it sided with the Banks. Advocating for more government to solve the problems only empowers the banks they protest against. Student loans via Government empower the banks by putting many students in a lifetime of debt.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

More fear mongering and misrepresentation from our friends in the media. I'm sure David Gregory's "solution" to this government created problem would be more government involvement. I won't hold my breath waiting for Anderson Cooper to come out with a "Keeping Them Honest" segment on this.

 

[rideurlightning]

More publicity for us. How DO ya DO.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Since the federal government is now involved in all student loans thanks to Obamacare (as opposed to implicitly backing everything before), ending them entirely is the correct position to take. It will then allow the private sector to reinstate a proper market for loans.

 

[Birdlady]

People in this country are obsessed with college and it's a touchy subject for most. I'm not sure how this article will go over, but Ron Paul is right!

Friends of mine complain about their school loans, but you cannot talk bad about any aspect of it or they freak out at you. They will even start to say that I'm jealous or something, which makes no sense because I have no school loans. lol

No one even wants to talk about the fact most college degrees are worthless. Even if you are talking to someone who can't find a job! The country as a whole is in denial about college. These people will defend their schools and degrees until they are homeless and even still, they will be clutching their university sweatshirts and alumni bumper stickers to feel better about themselves. At least that's how it is in PA. It is such a sick mentality.

This is once again another great discussion the country should be talking about. Ron Paul is right on.

 

[nayjevin]

I went to a community college library and did a survey of books in the section about Constitutional law. It's pretty disgusting how many of the books take an anti-freedom approach to the subject. It would appear that there is an 'activist judge' in the book buying department.