Politico.com frontpage - Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack

This is insanity. Do you understand the seriousness of this campaign? Ron Paul is one of the last defenders of liberty out there. Do you want to see what Ron Paul thinks about 9/11

Paul: Well, I think the more we know about what we went on is good. But I don't think there's any evidence of [an inside job] and I don't believe that. The blame goes to bad policy.

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html

Now please get over it. Ron Paul is a kind person to talk to Alex Jones, but if he keeps up this association it will be the end of his campaign. This will get national coverage and I hope to God it doesn't stick.

Not to lose my cool, but you know why conspiracy theorists are complete hypocrites? Alex Jones, your hero, just did more to discredit Ron Paul than the GOP or Fox News ever did, but you will not call him on it. Instead, you ask us to agree that the government is going to "False Flag" or whatever the hell. Saddam did not attack us and we invaded Iraq. Whatever. Those of you in touch with Alex Jones get him under control, public apology, retract the story, redirect the link to a retraction.
 
Kimosabi,

Grow up. It's not only Alex Jones' minions that know anything about what is going on in our country. HOWEVER, SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO GET DR. PAUL ELECTED! Because he actually might be able to stop some of this crap going on in our country.

Going around acting like a bunch of whack jobs is not going to stop Bush from declaring martial law. Yes, I know about his PDD51.

Alex Jones does not "own" Ron Paul. He has no right to put out a pack of lies about what he said in an interview. No right at all.

This is the big time, boys and girls. We're talking about the Presidency of the United States of America. Do you think this is a GAME, or something? It's not. This is one of our last chances to save our country. You should be as mad as I am that Alex did this. He needs to retract it immediately!
 
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kimosabi said:
And another thing, guess what happens if there is another "Terrorist" attack.

George W Bush can declare "Martial Law" and then there probably won't be another election.

Alex Jones is right, most of you guys have no idea how much trouble you are in...
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If you want to get out of this trouble then your goal should be to get Ron Paul elected.

I don't understand this logic: "Ron Paul can attract millions of mainstream, casually interested voters by telling them about government cover ups".

I don't think we are going to be able to get millions of Americans to re-learn their history so they will run out and vote for Ron Paul. However, if we focus on positive things like Ron Paul's support of the Constitution we will have a much better chance.
 
I saw a summary of this on the Fox news ticker tonite. Hey, I'm happy to see his name out there. Any attempts to stir up controversy just end up making him stronger and getting his name out there to more people. The misinformation can be easily discredited by any reader who is willing to put forth the slightest effort in fact checking.
 
Paul is way slicker than we are giving him credit for. He knows exactly what he is doing. TPTB want so desperately for him to give them something that they can paint him as a kook. So he gives them a little something they think they can nibble on and you get these inaccurate stories circulating around about what they thought he said.

Well that just spreads the word around to people who are "truthers" or predisposed to be truthers, and I can tell you that's a majority in this country right now, so he's probably pulling in even more people with these inacurate headlines.

But will they ever try to nail him on it in a big way, on a big stage? say they try to spring this on him at the next debate. You can bet he will be ready for it, he can correct what he said and expose them for the inaccurate assumption of what he said, then it will provide him with the opportunity to expand upon his point that he might not have otherwise had.

Before anyone tries to burn him on what he said in a big way, i.e. confront him with it on a network/cable TV interview, or spring it on him in a debate, they will first study what he said carefully, and realize they can't do it, and if they do try it, he'll burn them.

Dr. Paul never ceases to amaze me at how he seems to have these guys figured out, and plays the game one step ahead of them.
 
This was spun by Alex Jones, but he said the same thing to Congress in January!!!!! Why are you all saying this was spun but fail to mention him saying this in Congress? That speech happened in January and doesn't seem to have hurt him, so I don't think this will either. Here's exactly what he says...

"I am concerned, however, that a contrived Gulf of Tonkin type incident may well occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran." -Ron Paul

Then he goes into talking about the incident may be staged by Israel over U.S. objections and we would be culpable for providing the funding and weapons for helping set it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8MIENVtKw
 
LibertyEagle said:
wecandoit:

The thing is, Dr. Paul didn't do it. It was Alex's spin.
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I think I see what he is saying though. If any mainstream sources (tv) start to say this Ron Paul is going to get his chance on TV to clarify. At that same time not only will he clear up what he said, he will also bring attention (in the explanation) to the govs not so scrupulous past while making them look bad. So it's a win, win for him if they "take the bait". It will look bad at first but after a while the truth about what he said will come out.. just like with the "racist" smear. That backfired, I think more blacks support Ron Paul now than ever before. Why? Because hearing a candidate is a racist draws attention and when they look closer they see that the opposite is true, and so much more..
 
LibertyEagle said:
wecandoit:

The thing is, Dr. Paul didn't do it. It was Alex's spin.
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and Paul and Alex have known each other for how long?

this isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened, the Brown tax case, same thing. It just spread his message more and they never were able to stick anything negative on him about it. They tried, but Paul's rate of growth never stopped climbing.

I'm telling you, the good doctor is playing them.
 
Don't for one minute underestimate Alex Jones, he knows exactly what he is doing.
 
j650 said:
This was spun by Alex Jones, but he said the same thing to Congress in January!!!!! Why are you all saying this was spun but fail to mention him saying this in Congress? That speech happened in January and doesn't seem to have hurt him, so I don't think this will either. Here's exactly what he says...

"I am concerned, however, that a contrived Gulf of Tonkin type incident may well occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran." -Ron Paul

Then he goes into talking about the incident may be staged by Israel over U.S. objections and we would be culpable for providing the funding and weapons for helping set it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8MIENVtKw
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To me, the phrases "contrived Gulf of Tonkin incident" and "staged terror attack" have very different meanings.

For one, he never said "staged terror attack". Those are very powerful words to falsely link to him. Second, when he refers to the Gulf of Tonkin, that sounds like he is thinking of a possible Iranian military attack on Israel or on our troops stationed in Iraq. Of course, he does not go into specifics so people can come to different conclusions about that.
 
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WhiteWhaleHolyGrail said:
To me, the phrases "contrived Gulf of Tonkin incident" and "staged terror attack" have very different meanings.

For one, he never said "staged terror attack". Those are very powerful words to falsely link to him. Second, when he refers to the Gulf of Tonkin, that sounds like he is thinking of a possible Iranian attack on our troops stationed in Iraq. Of course, he does not go into specifics so people can come to different conclusions about that.
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Ok, thanks for responding. I think what you're trying to get at is the 2nd ship attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin most likely never was attacked or it was overexaggerated and this is what Ron Paul is referring to and not a "staged terror attack" that would actually kill people. Is this what you mean? After re-thinking it I can see the difference in the meanings.
 
j650 said:
Ok, thanks for responding. I think what you're trying to get at is the 2nd ship attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin most likely never was attacked or it was overexaggerated and this is what Ron Paul is referring to and not a "staged terror attack" that would actually kill people. Is this what you mean? After re-thinking it I can see the difference in the meanings.
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Yeah, when I read "staged terror attack" I immediately thought of another 9/11 type incident. I have thought of his Gulf of Tonkin comments as a parallel to some sort of Iranian military action.
 
"Gulf of Tonkin" style incident explained:

RP's statement in Congress has nothing to do with staged terror and everything to do with maintaining an aggressive stance against another country.. RP explains that we are maintaining misdirected pressure towards Iran.. With so many people calling for war, he is concerned that people are going to engage in a self-fulfilling prophecy of escalated aggression that is without basis..

I'm actually glad about this recent "bad news." RP will get a lot of attention for it, and when the MSM tries to use it against him, he will masterfully clear everything up in a way that makes the interviewer look like an idiot (because of their arrogant ignorance), while RP makes off looking like a valid contender..
 
Gor Nishanov said:
http://www.democraticunderground.co...sg&forum=389&topic_id=1331647&mesg_id=1331647

"I don't care what people on DU say about Paul-
The man has been calling the spades, "spades" longer than any other Congressman.
From the very beginning of the Bush/Cheney pResidency, Ron Paul has tried to warn
the American people about them."
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See, even the die-hard LIBS over at DU understand what Ron Paul said.

Below is a post from the thread linked above:


http://www.democraticunderground.co...sg&forum=389&topic_id=1331647&mesg_id=1331868

But wait. Did Paul actually say what the headline suggests?

The headline says "Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack"

Honestly, I don't get that from reading it. Unless of course I make some pretty bit logical leaps.

The staged terror attack idea seems to be Sheehan's, not Paul's.

Suggesting that the government was conducting "an orchestrated effort to blame the Iranians for everything that has gone wrong in Iraq" is definitely not the same as warning of a staged terror attack.

If he actually said this, why doesn't the article include the quote? That would seem to be rather important.
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Its because Ron Paul DIDN'T say it... Alex Jones & Cindy Sheehan said it...
 
They are trying to link him with the conspiracy theorists. He said no such thing.
 
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