Police State Bounty Hunters: The Rise of ICE’s Unconstitutional War on America

[nikcers]

That's not the point. The point is, if we demanded that government get and stay out of it, government wouldn't make it worse.

The real problem is, people refuse to believe their eyes when they see that government only ever makes problems worse.

The government wasn't enforcing the borders before Trump was president and that was worse than the government enforcing the borders under Trump.

You are the one saying don't believe what your eyes can see.

 

[nikcers]

Just because the invasion was assisted by USAID funded NGOs doesn't mean there isn't an invasion. The only one brainwashed is the person here that is against the one and only legitimate function of the federal government. That is it's business and only business.

The vast majority of it was funded by the people fleeing here.

They dumped their life savings into bribing the right people and abusing loopholes in our legal system.

Only perhaps 5% was the NGO. The rest of it was people fleeing regions of the world where they have been at war for 10-100s of years.

Living at peace is a major luxury- we havent had war on our soil since Phillipines was invaded in WW2.

 

[jmdrake]

These articles that make it seem like people are being snatched up for no reason are pure emotional garbage. They ignore facts- nearly every single person who has been arrested by the feds has committed some federal crime. Whether it’s the crime of being here illegally or they obstructed or used violence against them. I’m starting to realize that some of you are not for liberty. You just want anarchy. You can’t have liberty without law and order. America is a republic, a nation of laws. If there are laws, there has to be enforcement. Blanket bashing ICE is anti American.

Sure, there are bad police. Sure, mistakes are made. But those can be litigated. I want good police, not bad police. I don’t support it when there are incidents such as the recent Press NH Now video at the FBI building in Florida, or James Freeman getting arrested for saying Shut Up. But those incidents alone do not make me hate all cops, or hate all feds. Those individuals who violate their oath of office should be held individually responsible.

So.....I didn't realize libertarians in general supported "status crimes." That means we can't criticize the war on drugs because people should just obey the law? How far does that go?

 

[PAF]

Just because the invasion was assisted by USAID funded NGOs doesn't mean there isn't an invasion. The only one brainwashed is the person here that is against the one and only legitimate function of the federal government. That is it's business and only business.

Taking us off the gold standard, endless wars overseas, and the drug and other ones here at home, constant surveillance, central banks, more than massive debt on the backs of the tax payer, etc.

But this one thing, "invaders", the government "cares about and wants to protect you".

And I'm the brain washed one?

 

[jmdrake]

Just because the invasion was assisted by USAID funded NGOs doesn't mean there isn't an invasion. The only one brainwashed is the person here that is against the one and only legitimate function of the federal government. That is it's business and only business.

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Oct 10, 2025

At 4:00 in Dr. Paul flatly repudiates the "invasion" narrative pushed by @Anti Federalist and now @CaptUSA and @Maximilian American (and maybe @TheTexan though it's hard to tell when he's being serious). The reason I joined the Ron Paul movement in the first place is because I was concerned about a police state being rolled out in order to fight a Global War On Terrorism. 9/11 shook me to my core and I wanted something done, but I instinctively knew the government was going too far. Better screening at the airport? Okay. Full body scans and...

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Dr. Paul recently rejected the phony "invasion" rhetoric. I guess he's brainwashed? And before you say "I don't have to agree with everything Ron Paul says" I agree. But it's kind of silly to call one of his policy positions the result of "brainwashing" while still supporting him.

 

[jmdrake]

Taking us off the gold standard, endless wars overseas, and the drug and other ones here at home, constant surveillance, central banks, more than massive debt on the backs of the tax payer, etc.

But this one thing, "invaders", the government "cares about and wants to protect you".

And I'm the brain washed one?

And don't forget, Alex Jones and General Flynn are openly calling for Trump to consider full martial law including seizing farmland to oppose this phantom "invasion." America must become a tyrannical dictatorship to protect it from communism. (That's kind of how an Austrian painter rose to power.).

 

[TheTexan]

Dr. Paul recently rejected the phony "invasion" rhetoric.

Yes and in the same breath he said these illegals were "marching in and taking over". (normal people call this "invading")

 

[jmdrake]

Yes and in the same breath he said these illegals were "marching in and taking over". (normal people call this "invading")

Ron Paul. "That has nothing to do with an invasion. It has to do with bad policy because we subsidize people coming in and taking over." That's what @PAF was saying. And an "invasion" isn't when you pay people to come to your country. It's when they force their way in.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

It seems to me that if Government invited and let them in, there probably needs to be due process to evict them out.

 

[nikcers]

It seems to me that if Government invited and let them in, there probably needs to be due process to evict them out.

No

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

No

Some think open doors at the Capital and police escort means they were invited into the Capital.

 

[TheTexan]

Ron Paul. "That has nothing to do with an invasion. It has to do with bad policy because we subsidize people coming in and taking over." That's what @PAF was saying.

Why did you replace "marching in" with "coming in"? The word he used was "marching in". If you're gonna quote it, at least quote it accurately.

And an "invasion" isn't when you pay people to come to your country. It's when they force their way in.

in·va·sion
/inˈvāZHən/
noun
an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.

^ both of these definitions apply

 

[nikcers]

Some think open doors at the Capital and police escort means they were invited into the Capital.

We are allowed to just walk into DC because its our government and they work for us.

January 6 was a response to the authoritarian democrat ran governments and globalization and open borders.

It was a revolutionary protest that directly lead to the reelection of Trump.

It was our 1776.

 

[nikcers]

Why did you replace "marching in" with "coming in"? The word he used was "marching in". If you're gonna quote it, at least quote it accurately.




in·va·sion
/inˈvāZHən/
noun
an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.

^ both of these definitions apply

Of course its a god damn invasion.

They just made it politically incorrect to tell these people no means no.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Of course its a god damn invasion.

They just made it politically incorrect to tell these people no means no.

Yea I guess you could advertise you are having a party with free food and drinks and when 20,000 people show up at your house you can call it an invasion and call them trespassers.

 

[TheTexan]

Yea I guess you could advertise you are having a party with free food and drinks and when 20,000 people show up at your house you can call it an invasion and call them trespassers.

I didn't invite them so for me it's an invasion.

Did you invite them?

 

[nikcers]

Yea I guess you could advertise you are having a party with free food and drinks and when 20,000 people show up at your house you can call it an invasion and call them trespassers.

We never gave consent as a country.

They took advantage of the economic burden that it costs to force them to leave.

Their coconspirators helped them evade detection and law enforcement so that they could profit from the invasion.

They abused the loopholes in our legal system that allowed them to cheat, murder, and steal from our civilization and destroy our culture.

 

[acptulsa]

I didn't invite them so for me it's an invasion.

Did you invite them?

If I'm agreeing to shit by not trying to overthrow the government all by myself you are too. You not only invited them, you paid their fare.

 

[nikcers]

If I'm agreeing to shit by not trying to overthrow the government all by myself you are too. You not only invited them, you paid their fare.

Well let's agree to disagree there.

I tried to overthrow the government.

Thats how democracy works. We overthrow our government by electing different people.

The group of people that allowed this to happen had to change and I tried to change it. I didnt sit back and not oppose it.