Police Raid Wrong House - Homeowner shoots them

[Dequeant]

With all the "oops we raided the wrong house" crap going on lately, i knew it was only a matter of time. This is like the 4th "wrong house" incident in 2 months.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j8GjxkwPTSMKmh7BzC7_Ec3R84mgD8TJD5PO0

I could see myself doing the same darn thing, he had 6 kids in the house! The "decision to charge" is pending, what a crock of BS....they kicked in the man's front door!

 

[conner_condor]

He was later released, and a decision on whether to charge him was pending

Charge him with what? Defending his home? Well you don't press charges against us and we won't against you? What charges assholes?

 

[constituent]

cops gotta learn, you get what you give.


...and we (americans) ain't takin' it anymore.


the era of the bully has come and passed.

 

[rawkd]

I think we need to get law abiding, freedom loving, constitution obeying, patriot policemen out there. Or we should become local sheriffs.

 

[FreeTraveler]

How about a chip-in for the homeowner for some shooting classes? He needs to improve his aim.

 

[rp08orbust]

How about a chip-in for the homeowner for some shooting classes? He needs to improve his aim.

His aim was fine. The two SWAT team officers he hit were protected by bullet-proof vests and helmets. Maybe he should have aimed for limbs though.

 

[MooCowzRock]

They are simply considering charging him with something, which is understandable and depends on the situation. If they made it clear they were police officers and it was easy to see, he should be charged. If they were anonymous, then he shouldnt be charged, and it was all simply a mistake.

Mistakes happen, god damn. You people will use ANY reason possible to hate cops.

 

[torchbearer]

They are simply considering charging him with something, which is understandable and depends on the situation. If they made it clear they were police officers and it was easy to see, he should be charged. If they were anonymous, then he shouldnt be charged, and it was all simply a mistake.

Mistakes happen, god damn. You people will use ANY reason possible to hate cops.

So you blame us for the hatred? not the actions of our police officers and their abuses? We don't need excuses, their actions speak volumes, and is quite self-evident.
Do you not realize that the laws, especially victimless crime laws, have turned our law enforcement into protectors of the "state" and enemy of the people.
This is the unintended consequences of collectivism.

 

[MooCowzRock]

So you blame us for the hatred? not the actions of our police officers and their abuses? We don't need excuses, their actions speak volumes, and is quite self-evident.
Do you not realize that the laws, especially victimless crime laws, have turned our law enforcement into protectors of the "state" and enemy of the people.
This is the unintended consequences of collectivism.

It wasnt an "abuse" is was an accident. If you're going out of your way to "hate" an entire group of people who risk their lives to hate you for a simple mistake, though a bad mistake, then you are a moron. Just like the soldiers, dont hate the ones that accidentally kill a civilian in their attempts to save more, doing their job, hate the ones that go out of their way to rape a 15 year old girl. You have to use some level of rationality in criticism. Some of you overly-anti-establishment people look for absolutely any reason to hate any authority what-so-ever.

I'll side with you any time a cop actually abuses his power, but 90% of the stories and videos people bring up, the cop isnt at fault, and its getting annoying. Stop LOOKING for a reason to hate cops, and people will take a little more seriously. LOOKING for a reason to hate cops leads to the same result as LOOKING for a reason to start war with Iraq. See how easy it is to get irrational in your "reasons" when you desire something?

 

[Dr.3D]

They are simply considering charging him with something, which is understandable and depends on the situation. If they made it clear they were police officers and it was easy to see, he should be charged. If they were anonymous, then he shouldnt be charged, and it was all simply a mistake.

Mistakes happen, god damn. You people will use ANY reason possible to hate cops.

How is anybody to know if the people breaking down their door are really police?
Anybody can yell, "POLICE SEARCH WARRANT!" and break down the door. It may or may not really be the police who break down the door.

A person does not have time to get identification of the people breaking down his door before he must defend himself and his family.

Police would be better off just knocking at the door and showing a search warrant.

 

[MooCowzRock]

How is anybody to know if the people breaking down their door are really police?
Anybody can yell, "POLICE SEARCH WARRANT!" and break down the door. It may or may not really be the police who break down the door.

A person does not have time to get identification of the people breaking down his door before he must defend himself and his family.

Police would be better off just knocking at the door and showing a search warrant.

They do that 99% of the time. However, there are situations with highly violent offenders, or likely to run offenders, where they have to use quick methods of surprise, which is perfectly understandable. In a situation where the guy is potentially going to try and shoot you to not go to jail(especially with offenders that have shot cops before) they wouldnt be better off just knocking at the door. But again, they do knock at the door 99.99 percent of the time.

 

[Dr.3D]

They do that 99% of the time. However, there are situations with highly violent offenders, or likely to run offenders, where they have to use quick methods of surprise, which is perfectly understandable. In a situation where the guy is potentially going to try and shoot you to not go to jail(especially with offenders that have shot cops before) they wouldnt be better off just knocking at the door. But again, they do knock at the door 99.99 percent of the time.

Wouldn't a stake out for those places where you can't just knock be a better approach? Just watch for the person they are looking for and arrest him before he can enter the house. Or arrest him after he leaves the house. Makes more sense than breaking down peoples doors.

These gang buster tactics are what is the problem here.

 

[MooCowzRock]

Wouldn't a stake out for those places where you can't just knock be a better approach? Just watch for the person they are looking for and arrest him before he can enter the house. Or arrest him after he leaves the house. Makes more sense than breaking down peoples doors.

These gang buster tactics are what is the problem here.

Not always, stake outs are used in some situations also, but not all for a reason. I dont know every detail of every situation and why they use different approaches, because I havent been trained as an officer before, and havent had the past experiences they have had to know completely why. I just use some common sense for most of them. Try asking a cop some of these questions personally, rather than make assumptions about them though, because neither of us have had the experience necessary to make such judgements.

 

[Dr.3D]

Not always, stake outs are used in some situations also, but not all for a reason. I dont know every detail of every situation and why they use different approaches, because I havent been trained as an officer before, and havent had the past experiences they have had to know completely why. I just use some common sense for most of them. Try asking a cop some of these questions personally, rather than make assumptions about them though, because neither of us have had the experience necessary to make such judgements.

Fair enough.

 

[pcosmar]

It wasnt an "abuse" is was an accident.

WRONG VERY VERY WRONG.
It was not an "accident" It was a crime.
They attacked a family WITHOUT a valid warrant.
They broke into a home.
That is a CRIME.
There is NO excuse.

 

[kushaze]

They have raided the wrong house in my neighborhood at least 3 times in 1 year, but for some reason it doesn't get that much coverage.

 

[1913_to_2008]

They are simply considering charging him with something, which is understandable and depends on the situation. If they made it clear they were police officers and it was easy to see, he should be charged. If they were anonymous, then he shouldnt be charged, and it was all simply a mistake.

Mistakes happen, god damn. You people will use ANY reason possible to hate cops.

Man, every post I read of yours...WOW!~ You just seem more like the Hyuckabee or Guiliani type.

How do you know that they identified their selves?

If you lived in the city and your door was kicked in, right in the middle of night even if they said they were cops would you believe them? Especially if you haven't done anything wrong?

 

[Mortikhi]

They are simply considering charging him with something, which is understandable and depends on the situation. If they made it clear they were police officers and it was easy to see, he should be charged. If they were anonymous, then he shouldnt be charged, and it was all simply a mistake.

Mistakes happen, god damn. You people will use ANY reason possible to hate cops.

They identified themselves as police, but the guy doesn't speak English.

If someone busted into my house and said "POLICE!" I'd still shoot at them. How am I supposed to know that they are really the police?

 

[pcosmar]

They identified themselves as police, but the guy doesn't speak English.

If someone busted into my house and said "POLICE!" I'd still shoot at them. How am I supposed to know that they are really the police?

Impersonating Police is a tactic often used by home invaders.
That is why you always check identification.
These No Knock raids are unnecessary 99.99% of the time.
They are wrong more often than is justified.

 

[Dr.3D]

Does anybody think the government of the United States would not shoot at an army coming into it's borders all the while saying "UN, SEARCH WARRANT!"?