Please rank the top 10 states in which to live.
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I didn't apologize for the state
NH has problem, but less so than other places. What's more, there is a large group of people that have gone substantially further to not only identify the NH problems, but to come up with partial solutions. We have a substantially larger (per capita), better connected and more helpful community of liberty activists than in other states. Not onY are there far more resources dealing with liberty activists moving to NH and are those resources more useful than in other states, but there are half a dozen annual events in NH designed to encourage people to visit NH, talk to people, see things, learn stuff and get a feel for the place. You likely know of at least 2 of them, Porcfest and Liberty Forum.
I own a lot of things. I buy a lot of things. I make a living. Thankfully, NH does not have a general sales tax, it might even tax less services than any other state, there is also no liquor tax nor a tax on average or above average cigars. The gas tax is also 1 of the lowest in the nation. Edit, according to you source, in 2011, 13% of the NH workforce worked in MA. http://www.concordmonitor.com/news/4554367-95/statebudget-incometax-newhampshireadvantage Some of those people pay no state income taxes, some of those people pay a little state income taxes, some pay average. For example, if you are a delivery driver and you live in NH but your route is in another state, chances are you aren't paying state income taxes. If you live in NH but work from home 30 hours a week and in CT 10 hours a week, you only pay CT income taxes on the 10 hours a week you work in CT. If you live in NH and do all of your work outside of the state but work in security, you pay no state income tax. If you take a wifi bus to Boston 4 days a week, the work you do on the bus is not taxed but the work you do at the Boston office is taxed, that is, if you work for a decent company.
Every states has many, many problems and it makes no sense that you keep downing on the state with the least issues, by far the best community and the best future prospects for liberty, not to mention the highest quality of living in the nation.
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That is why I'm not there and won't be.
In a collapse scenario where long term survival is necessary taxes, current economy, and even gun laws are meaningless. On the other hand things like extreme cold (Alaska?), limited water (Arizona?), and even proximity to nuclear power plants should be of greater concern.
Old old map. At least two of those nuclear plants in CA have been closed 20-30 years.In a collapse scenario where long term survival is necessary taxes, current economy, and even gun laws are meaningless. On the other hand things like extreme cold (Alaska?), limited water (Arizona?), and even proximity to nuclear power plants should be of greater concern.
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Thanks for the correction. Yeah, it's about 13% of the NH workforce works in MA. I was thinking of 2008 info that said almost 25% of NH residents were from MA. Since movers from MA dramatically slowed down after the great recession started, maybe that's as low as 21% or so now. I don't know for sure.
It is true that NH is smaller than the average state and that southern NH has the best interstates in the US. Because of that (and there are decent highways in VT/MA/ME connecting to NH) that lots of people tend to live in 1 New England state, shop for many things in another, work in another, send their kids to college in another, vacation in another and so on. So yeah, NH folks are dependent on Boston for having near the highest paying jobs in the US and being a major source of entertainment (musicals, pro-sports, concerts) and MA folks are dependent on NH have no taxes on most alcohol, no taxes on cigars, low gas taxes, no bottle deposits, to buy fireworks, to buy swords, the ski, for the lakes, to hike and so on. It is a great relationship and allows NH to have the lowest taxes in the lower 48 and people in NH to have the highest quality of life in the US. It's part of the reason NH is ranked the best place to raise kids.
Actually, as far as I know, NH is the only state where even Democrats are opposed to an income tax. In fact, the Democrats that win the Democratic primary for governor usually win because they are opposed to a state income tax and a general sales tax. Opposing those 2 taxes are the 2 most important issues in the Democratic primary. So, obviously, NH isn't going to get an income tax with Democrats, Undeclareds and Republicans opposing it, especially when a bunch of free staters are moving to NH. You know this, yet you misinform, which is disappointing.
The majority of people in some of the towns of NH do like some government services, and without the ability to create a statewide or local income or sales tax, they are left with supporting increasing property taxes to pay for the services they want. And so, that's what the voters do in some towns in NH. NH isn't anti-ownership, though. In fact, the law is designed via the current use policy to encourage people to own larger amounts of land. If you own over 10 acres and put 10 of your acres in current use, there is almost no property tax on it. You can continue to use it to farm, to hunt, to swim in, for fruit trees, for logging or whatever you are using it for but the property taxes go down to almost nothing. And that's in the communities with property taxes. Some places don't even have property taxes to begin with.
As for monopolies, New Hampshire's Constitution specifically says that 1 of the points of the government and legislature is to prevent private sector monopolies.
For small businesses with 1-3 employees, NH is 1 of the small most business friendly states in the nation. No personal income taxes, no general sales tax, and almost no state business taxes, especially if you know how to run a business. You get to carry your loses forward for years, and even the gains count against them. You can give yourself a salary of $75,000 tax free, no questions asked. Put the rest back in the business and there you go.
New Hampshire is #3 for small business friendly states
http://nhfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/new-hampshire-is-3-for-small-business-friendly-states/
However, while NH has about the lowest taxes in the US, it does have a government. The government is funded somehow. And yes, business taxes are high for larger companies in NH. Yet, often, large companies would rather be located in NH than in near-by states, even if this 1 group is singled out by the NH tax code to actually pay high taxes. Again, NH isn't perfect, just the best there is and the place most likely to get better sooner.
Sorry, again, that was my mistake. Thanks for the correction. That's not a problem. MA if by far the most likely place to find FSP movers. I'd love to move 1,000s of more liberty folks from MA. I know many great people, and even many legislators in NH that were born in MA. The MA folks that want socialism and to live in the woods often move to ME or VT. The MA folks that want major city life, often move to NYC. The MA folks that want a warmer climate often move to FL or even NC. The MA that want freedom often move to NH, along with the MA that want a cheap place to live since NH is the least expensive place to live in New England, largely because it has near the lowest taxes in the US and no general sales tax.
This isn't true. NH is 1 of 18 alcoholic beverage control states. That means that most liquor and wine have to pass through the government at some point, in order to be legally sold. Most liquor stores in NH are run by the government but 3 are run by small businesses. NH's liquor system could use a lot of work, and free staters have helped pass several reform bills, but it is still arguably the best system in the US. NH has the lowest liquor prices in the county, and some of the best available hours in the country. There are also massive liquor stores located directly on the interstates. The NH government making a small profit on the sale of most liquor and wine in NH helps keep NH with the about the lowest taxes in the US.
NH has the largest variation in property taxes in the nation, from nothing to very high, depending on what people in that community decide they want. In NH towns, the people themselves decide the budget. You point it good to know but not useful in convincing a single person 1 way or another. Since this and similar threads are about where is the best place to live/move to, someone moving to NH could decide to live in a community without property taxes, with low property taxes, in a way without property taxes or low property taxes.
Hardly. Again, NH has just about the lowest overall taxes of anywhere in the US. The corporate taxes are high for large companies only. The property taxes are only high for people that want to have a small amount of land in a high property tax area. The dividend taxes are low in NH and for most people, easy to avoid completely.
That is just you trolling me. Which is fine. I've responded to enough of your trolling though
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That is just you trolling me. Which is fine. I've responded to enough of your trolling though
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That's one hell of a giant post you just made, only to conclude with that. lol
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Portsmouth is actually the young and exciting place to be in NH. Right next to it is a university with 14,000 students. Portsmouth and depending on the event, Dover is considered the place to be for those students. Portsmouth is expensive, though, so not a great deal of families with young kids live in Portsmouth, if that is what you are about. Though, Portsmouth and near-by Hampton Beach are near the top spots to visit for families with young kids to visit in the summer.
1 of the great things about NH is that it has all of the benefits of 1 a major city without the problems like crime, high welfare use, ghettos and high taxes. Boston is a 35 minute drive from Salem, NH. Depending on where you live in NH, it's often an hour or so train or bus ride to Boston. You can get monthly passes and their is usually wifi included with your ticket.
As for the aging population, though, that is completely accurate. In fact, ME, VT and NH are all among the states with the oldest population. That's great, IMO. It means I'm at less risk of them committing a crime against me or a company, they are less likely to be driving at night, they are less likely to go crazy and shot people... It also means that there are plenty of jobs in health care in NH
http://voices.yahoo.com/top-five-oldest-states-america-9102315.html
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I have 1 % on primary residence and about twice that on the other stuff.
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Another way to rank the 10 ten states to live in.
Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in 2012 compared
Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest (and the 2008 percentage):
1. New Hampshire 4.3% (1.4%)
2. Vermont 2.4% (0.4%)
3. Montana 2% (1.7%)
4. South Carolina 1.7% (0.4%)
5. Wisconsin 1.5% (0.3%)
6. Indiana 1.5% (0.5%)
7. Virginia 1.3% (0.3%)
8. Michigan 1.2% (0.6%)
9. North Carolina 1.1% (0.4%)
10. Ohio 1% (0.5%)
Or maybe you want to average the 2012 and 2008 results together? If that's the case, MT moves up to #2 and OR, which was in 12th place, moves into the top 10. See more here. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...state-population-voting-for-Ron-Paul-compared
Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in 2012 compared
Percentage of total state population voting for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary or Republican Caucus, ranked highest to lowest (and the 2008 percentage):
1. New Hampshire 4.3% (1.4%)
2. Vermont 2.4% (0.4%)
3. Montana 2% (1.7%)
4. South Carolina 1.7% (0.4%)
5. Wisconsin 1.5% (0.3%)
6. Indiana 1.5% (0.5%)
7. Virginia 1.3% (0.3%)
8. Michigan 1.2% (0.6%)
9. North Carolina 1.1% (0.4%)
10. Ohio 1% (0.5%)
Or maybe you want to average the 2012 and 2008 results together? If that's the case, MT moves up to #2 and OR, which was in 12th place, moves into the top 10. See more here. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...state-population-voting-for-Ron-Paul-compared
What if some states have a disproportionate number of people ineligible to vote? Maybe they're to young or felons or something. I don't know if that's the case. Maybe every state is about the same. Also, not every state had the same number of candidates. Virginia, as I recall, only had Romney as an opponent and a lot of Santorum and Gingrich supporters voted for Paul just to keep Romney from winning. There were a number of states in which Santorum was not on the ballot and similar things could have happened in those.
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There are a ton of factors. You are correct. You bring up great points! In some states like ME and VT, a felon in prison may vote. In some states like NH, a felon out of prison may vote. Also, NH had the most people on the ballot so there was the most competition. There were also states that aren't important in national politics. The vote happened late in those states and people just didn't bother to vote. In VA, there were only 2 people so Ron Paul did much better than he would have, IMO. But then again, there are the caucus states where most people refuse to vote because they don't like the caucus system. That's another factor to consider.
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Here are the 10 worst, in no particular order... almost.
- New York -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, taxed to death
- New Jersey -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, insanely twitchy cops, taxes
- Massachusetts -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, taxes
- California -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, environMENTALism gone amok, taxes
- Maryland -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, taxes
- Rhode Island -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal
- Connecticut -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal
- Illinois- -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, insanely corrupt cops
- Florida - more stupidity per square angstrom than the rest of the world put together
- Ohio -collectivist authoritarian dump, everything is illegal, insanely twitchy cops
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BWAAAAAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HA HA HA HA...
Oh, you were serious. In that case, you are cracked. I lived there for years - LA, San Mateo, Davis.
Shit. Hole. Beautiful, mind you, but politically one of the biggest crapholes on the planet.
Lived there, too. Great state in some ways, but politically it sucks ass.
See Oregon. WA is VERY conservative except Seattle and because they have the population and it is mostly retarded progressives (redundant, I know) the rest of the state is forced to kowtow to the socialist agenda. Living in Vancouver was like being on an entirely different planet from Seattle. I lived in both places.
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West Virginia is one of the better states primarily because you can be left alone. If I decide to build a barn, I build it and do not worry about some cock-weasel getting up my six about permits. I carry a gun everywhere I go, concealed or openly and have no hassles. Cops are generally polite and very much the opposite of the twitchy fags in places like NJ and OH, who pose the greatest public danger imaginable. Very few people here are uncomfortable around firearms and the few that are remain polite about it. We just normalized all gun laws here so that cities like Dunbar can no longer prohibit you from carrying openly.
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