Please Give IT BACK I beg of you.

[Pauliana]

The problem is, as I see it, if he gives it back, suddenly he's liable for ALL of his donors viewpoints. All the MSM has to do once he takes that position is go through his FEC filings and knock us down one by one and mire him down, instead of letting him talk about his message.

He's done the smart thing.

And it has been pointed out that he DOES accept money from lobbyists, if they are dumb enough to think they are buying something from him, which they aren't. He's not for sale. Thus... he doesn't get much.

 

[VoluntaryMan]

Don't Give MY $$$ to Racists!!!

I'm sorry, but if Don Black sent a check for $500,000.00 (a far more impactful amount than $500) to the United Negro College Fund, should they return it? Considering what we now know about Mr. Black (that he was one of the goons Bush's campaign mobilized to run Jesse Jackson out of FL, during the 2000 recount), isn't it likely that UNCF would put the money to better use than Mr. Black?

This is a non-issue.

 

[susano]

You are clouding the message, Positiveness will not win this campaign SHIT. Realism will and you guys are not being realist.

I really think you should find yourself a good race baiting candidate to support. Bill Richardson might be a place to start. Hillary works, too. While you're at it, send a check to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Or, maybe, they should send YOU a check.

 

[olehounddog]

The problem is, as I see it, if he gives it back, suddenly he's liable for ALL of his donors viewpoints. All the MSM has to do once he takes that position is go through his FEC filings and knock us down one by one and mire him down, instead of letting him talk about his message.

He's done the smart thing.

And it has been pointed out that he DOES accept money from lobbyists, if they are dumb enough to think they are buying something from him, which they aren't. He's not for sale. Thus... he doesn't get much.

I agree

 

[susano]

You get my vote for the most boring and dumbass troll I've seen this week.

Yawn...

We seem to get our fair share of trolls, lol. They are TERRIFIED of the constitution and our POSSITIVE revolution! There is NO stopping this peace and freedom train!

 

[partypooper]

absolutely not, don't return it, it would reinforce the absurd idea that random beliefs of assorted donors are somehow relevant to dr paul clearly stated beliefs and flawless record.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Do you really want Ron Paul to donate $500 to a white supremacist? That makes no sense.

 

[imbrians89]

You get my vote for the most boring and dumbass troll I've seen this week.

Yawn...

You get my vote for the most close minded dumb ass I have EVER encountered on and off line. Thanks for trolling back you fucking jack ass. I made a Legitiment argument for my candidate that I have supported by turning from a democrat to a republican, converting a couple of friends, and donating Time and Money to this cause I believe in this message and I'm not going to let internet NERDS like you get the last word when it comes to issues like these that can potentially make or break this election. Thanks for keeping the debate legitimate Jack Ass

 

[WilliamC]

Greetings All,

You guys I guess don't see it from my perspective, Wait for the BACKLASH it will speak for itself. If you can remember the 2006 senatorial race Jim Webb beat George Allin because George Allin said ONE Word. The entire Election lost over one dumb action. People do care and they do listen and most of the time they don't educate themselves enough to make an informed decision. All because we know why Ron Paul isn't giving the money back dosen't mean your avg. day Joe who dosen't follow politics and only tunes in once and a while WILL.

Difference is Ron Paul insulted no one by misspeaking, he is just running a campaign and accepting donations to it. Hey I've got a great idea, if you're so d@mn worried about this why don't you send $500 of your own money back to him for Ron Paul? I saw the interview and Neil Cavuto sounded like a FOOL harping on a single contribution out of over 100,000. If you think there is going to be backlash over this you're mistaken. Heck the fact that Ron Paul used a question about Huckabee's Christmas add to point out that America could be lulled into fascism through the flag and the cross didn't cause backlash should tell you that this $500 donation from a politically incorrect supporter won't. Ron Paul has the advantage that he is honest and has never in 10 terms of Congress compromised his integrity. If the media continues to try and use this against him he can merely point out where all of the other candidates money comes from, I'm sure they have scads of unsavory donors if anyone bothered to look.

William C Colley

 

[partypooper]

You guys don't get the fact that online polls and forum board debates don't mean shit do you? In the end all that matters are sound bytes and smear campaigns.

if that is all that matters then let's pack our bags and leave. dr paul can not win that war regardless of whether he gives the money or not. his only chance is to change the rules of the game. he might not succeed in that either, but he has a hell of a better chance.

 

[Ozwest]

You get my vote for the most close minded dumb ass I have EVER encountered on and off line. Thanks for trolling back you fucking jack ass. I made a Legitiment argument for my candidate that I have supported by turning from a democrat to a republican, converting a couple of friends, and donating Time and Money to this cause I believe in this message and I'm not going to let internet NERDS like you get the last word when it comes to issues like these that can potentially make or break this election. Thanks Jack Ass

Mmmm... Eloquent.

Yawn x 2.

 

[tropicangela]

So no one else likes the idea of him donating the $500 to sick kids? LOL Tough crowd.

 

[thisisgiparti]

He has said he won't accept lobbyists money and he hasn't. Why is this different? School me please.

Lobbyists "donate" money to see their political aims carried out. They are influencing the votes of their bought politicians.

Don Black donated money as an individual, not as the head of Storm Front. He never gave Ron Paul money with any expectation of Ron Paul promoting white supremacy. Ron Paul never accepted the money for that reason; giving it back would be admitting to some thing he never did.

Once you begin discriminating against people for their beliefs, especially while espousing such libertarian views as Ron Paul does, you look like a hypocrite and a self-righteous prig who panders for votes. There are some people who criticize Ron Paul for wanting to jail Scooter Libby! We all support Ron Paul for fighting for our civil liberties, regardless of who we are.

 

[steph3n]

Thats my point we all know this and cherish it because in part its OUR Message, But what are NEW potential voters going to get out of this when they hear the endless soundbytes? Think beyond these forums and beyond the internet and you will see my point.

Check out the PBS NOW special it has a good answer in more detail. This matter has been on huffington post and others for a long time. What is worse, writing a check BACK to a white nationalist or spending that money along with yours and mine that goes for LIBERTY AND FREEDOM for ALL.

 

[Begood]

Would YOU consider not voting for RP because of that?

Probably no, then why do you think others could be affected by that?

 

[srmpass98]

So no one else likes the idea of him donating the $500 to sick kids? LOL Tough crowd.

Not really because the fundamentals are virtually the same, i.e. using the money. They are not really debating what channels the money goes to but rather the integrity and veracity of the money and if at all it should be accepted as a legitimate donation.

The real question is if this money should be accepted, and I thought Ron Paul's take on it with Cavuto was perhaps his best and strongest interview in a long time.

 

[WilliamC]

So no one else likes the idea of him donating the $500 to sick kids? LOL Tough crowd.

Again, as others have pointed out, as soon as Ron Paul "takes responsibility" for a single donor by refunding their money or redirecting it from his campaign the media will use this against him with as many unsavory donors as they can find. It will put him on the defensive for the actions of his supporters, which is an absurd position to be in. If you want to make a gesture send $500 of your own money to charity in Ron Paul's name.
William C Colley

 

[specsaregood]

MSM just got ahold of this TODAY. WATCH out for HEADLINES TOMMOROW. You will hear ENDLESS sound bytes msm smearing our candidates Message and him saying that no "I wont Give the money back" to people that if they had the chance would murder every single black/hispanic/asian/jewish/muslim/interacial person in this country and probably the world if they had the chance.

They got ahold of this over a month ago. They trotted it out after the Nov. 5th fundraiser. They decided to trot it out again. It is their tactic to make it look like all that money is coming from neo-nazis.

Ron Paul is right on the issue. Giving back the money is the equivalent of saying, "People that give me money, gain influence over my actions." Ron Paul doesn't roll like that. It is the same reason lobbyists don't bother him.

Instead of cowering before the media, you should honor him by spreading the word of his courage to stand up to special interests.

 

[janeuner]

I'm absolutely convinced this "imbrians89" guy is a journalist (faux news?) trying to get one of us to say that we want him to give the $500 back. He'll then write a column about how Ron Paul's supporters want him to give the money back.

Go away troll =/

 

[Ozwest]

There.s also the aspect of Individual freedom and liberty.

Whether we agree or disagree with someone's beliefs should be of no consequence, if that person is not disobeying any laws.