eric_cartman
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please EVERYONE read this before posting
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torchbearer
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I know Trevor, he has worked for my campaign. This is not fraud. To state otherwise is to purposefully scare people away.
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slantedview
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quit trolling. get lost. you're not helping anyone spouting BS you know nothing about.
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sorry, but that's bs.
looking out for other "customers" and preventing a desaster for the whole grassroots campaign has nothing to do with government intervention.
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I am not stating they are fraud at all-I just think it is weird that people are yelling about this project-in the sense get the proposal from Trevor or whomever- as you would for any business you want to use and if you like it pay for that service if you don’t -don’t!! And if you think you can do it better then pay for your own blimp and fly it how you want and you don’t use Trevor's service--that was all my point was
I don't know if my comments have "protected" anyone.
I know that I'm very grateful to those who started talking about all the problems mentioned above so I could inform myself and make an informed decision not to donate.
that's all I'm trying to do for others.
you didn't listen.
fyi, I was posting very positive about the whole idea, pledged, and planned to donate.
Melissa
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again you are not understanding free markets-let these guy make a pitch with a price and if people don't like it they dont donate for it-and if you think you can do better (As in free markets) you do research state a price and see if any one wants to back your bid- and if you dont want to do any of this then you leave and dont donate to this but like the free market unless you actully have been conned by these guys you have no buiness posting.
I don't think that's the place for a philosophical debate, but do you honestly think consumers or would-be consumers should just shut up if they don't like a product in a free market?
then you obviously disagree with ron paul who advocates quality control of products by individuals and consumer groups instead of government regulations.
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We won't see these people leave until either the project fails through their efforts or succeeds despite them. Then they will move on to the next project that begins to gain momentum.
They are not trolls (mostly), and they are RP supporters (mostly). Over and above this, they are "destructionists". These are the same type of people that will knock down snowmen and sand castles when nobody is looking. They are probably young, and certainly immature in their belief systems/philosophy.
They likely consider themselves anarchists, minarchists, or libertarians; however, they have not yet formed a coherent framework of thought that would make them any of those things. Therefore, they resort to a simpleton's view of those philosopies, which is destructionism.
They support RP only because he wishes to dismantle some things. If there were another candidate proposing to behead all members of government and then retire to his militia group in Wyoming, they would be on that board complaining that everyone who didn't add lawyers, clergy, and non-profits was an idiot.
Nothing to do but recognize them and work around them. They support RP, but he does not support their views.
This doesn't include some with well thought out and presented issues that deserve discussion, but the obvious few with nothing to add.
They are not trolls (mostly), and they are RP supporters (mostly). Over and above this, they are "destructionists". These are the same type of people that will knock down snowmen and sand castles when nobody is looking. They are probably young, and certainly immature in their belief systems/philosophy.
They likely consider themselves anarchists, minarchists, or libertarians; however, they have not yet formed a coherent framework of thought that would make them any of those things. Therefore, they resort to a simpleton's view of those philosopies, which is destructionism.
They support RP only because he wishes to dismantle some things. If there were another candidate proposing to behead all members of government and then retire to his militia group in Wyoming, they would be on that board complaining that everyone who didn't add lawyers, clergy, and non-profits was an idiot.
Nothing to do but recognize them and work around them. They support RP, but he does not support their views.
This doesn't include some with well thought out and presented issues that deserve discussion, but the obvious few with nothing to add.
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I've met Trevor several times now. He has moved to New Hampshire to be part of the movement. I trust him, and will continue to do so until there's a specific and concrete reason not to. He has done as much for Ron Paul as anyone, and continues to be 100% committed.
I have also purchased time on the blimp. I want to see this thing fly. And I couldn't have done the blimp project better myself - not a chance.
I have also purchased time on the blimp. I want to see this thing fly. And I couldn't have done the blimp project better myself - not a chance.
Get off his back.
Google Ron Paul blimp - It's really happening!
Have you ever sat in a small “continuous improvement” department meeting at work to discuss ideas? It takes weeks to discuss each and every idea. Then even more weeks for them to decide what to put into practice. Then you have to get other people involved and spend time implementing the new procedures.
I can’t imagine having a meeting with hundreds of people each promoting their own ideas. That would take months to get everyone to agree on a plan of action. This Ron Paul blimp project has gone so far and so fast in getting all this work done! Makes my head spin! A few people who were not paying attention got left behind. They have to catch up and get with the program!
As long as there is written legally binding “full disclosure” concerning the funds raised and of all expenditures, I don’t see why anyone would still have issues. I want to see videos as progress is being made on the blimp artwork and the blimp itself posted on the blimp website. That would be a huge motivation to get things going!
Let’s get this done so all the pledges will start coming in! Nobody is going anywhere with the funds since there is going to be so much national and international media coverage on them there will be no place to go. I’m sure the feds are also watching this project closely too since its a Presidential campaign. So that’s a non issue at this point. Trevor Lyman is an honest man and he’s leading every aspect of this project. He needs to be on this full time!
If you still have any reservations, just do a Google search “Ron Paul Blimp” and you will see for yourself that we’re getting great media coverage already! Let’s just focus on making good on our pledges for the first month’s operation! What follows after that will take care of itself. There will be plenty of time to address issues as we go along. Lets keep moving forward!
Let’s get The Ron Paul R3VOLUTION blimp UP in the AIR for OUR TEA PARTY!!!
Have you ever sat in a small “continuous improvement” department meeting at work to discuss ideas? It takes weeks to discuss each and every idea. Then even more weeks for them to decide what to put into practice. Then you have to get other people involved and spend time implementing the new procedures.
I can’t imagine having a meeting with hundreds of people each promoting their own ideas. That would take months to get everyone to agree on a plan of action. This Ron Paul blimp project has gone so far and so fast in getting all this work done! Makes my head spin! A few people who were not paying attention got left behind. They have to catch up and get with the program!
As long as there is written legally binding “full disclosure” concerning the funds raised and of all expenditures, I don’t see why anyone would still have issues. I want to see videos as progress is being made on the blimp artwork and the blimp itself posted on the blimp website. That would be a huge motivation to get things going!
Let’s get this done so all the pledges will start coming in! Nobody is going anywhere with the funds since there is going to be so much national and international media coverage on them there will be no place to go. I’m sure the feds are also watching this project closely too since its a Presidential campaign. So that’s a non issue at this point. Trevor Lyman is an honest man and he’s leading every aspect of this project. He needs to be on this full time!
If you still have any reservations, just do a Google search “Ron Paul Blimp” and you will see for yourself that we’re getting great media coverage already! Let’s just focus on making good on our pledges for the first month’s operation! What follows after that will take care of itself. There will be plenty of time to address issues as we go along. Lets keep moving forward!
Let’s get The Ron Paul R3VOLUTION blimp UP in the AIR for OUR TEA PARTY!!!
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Cut 'em some slack
I seems to me that the salaries are more than fair. Who works for 5 hundred bucks a week anymore.
As a business owner, I can assure you that this does not have the makings of a money making venture.
There is a lot risk in this plan and Trevor is taking it all.
I seems to me that the salaries are more than fair. Who works for 5 hundred bucks a week anymore.
As a business owner, I can assure you that this does not have the makings of a money making venture.
There is a lot risk in this plan and Trevor is taking it all.
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