please EVERYONE read this before posting

cien750hp

Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2007
Messages
792
everything is done for legal reasons. being a for-profit company selling advertising timeshares gets rid of all the limits and makes it easier for everyone. they will not make a profit.
your choices are blimp from this company set up for this sole purpose or no blimp because people cannot donate more than, $2700 (assuming they give the 2300 to the campaign.) here people can donate however much they want. if you get a nice christmas bonus, you could donate it. if you win the lottery, you could donate it. it is much easier and better, don't you agree?

there needs to be payment for legal counsels and others involved.

trevor and elijah are not looking to make millions.
they are looking for some compensation so they can work full time on the blimp, while not going into bankruptcy
They deserve it, and work tirelessly on this. They are listening to our suggestions, not everything can be instant. Cut them some slack. Let them work more instead of barraging them with complaints, this would all get off the ground and in the air faster.

this is not a scam. look at the legal team. Bradley Smith and Jim Fosbinder should make you feel secure here. The blimp cannot be brought down with them onboard.

nothing is without risks, and this has good intentions.

the graphics cannot be changed to endorse ron paul for president and would delay us and miss the teaparty

none of this can be related to the official campaign at all. this has to be individual.

if you feel its a scam then stop posting, and go support ron paul in your own way without alienating this effort.

and most importantly:
we need to rally together under Dr. Paul and the message of liberty, and not start bashing eachother. we are above that. come on. we can raise this money in a day then we wouldn't have to worry about what happens if we don't raise enough. :D

edit: donate at ronpaulblimp.com
 
Last edited:
if you feel its a scam then stop posting, and go support ron paul in your own way

The moment this became a money making business it stopped being grassroots. Are the grassroots now being asked to stop posting and leave so this newly formed business can florish and begin generating revenue to pay salaries?
 
The moment this became a money making business it stopped being grassroots. Are the grassroots now being asked to stop posting and leave so this newly formed business can florish and begin generating revenue to pay salaries?

It seems that way to me.
 
The moment this became a money making business it stopped being grassroots. Are the grassroots now being asked to stop posting and leave so this newly formed business can florish and begin generating revenue to pay salaries?
Any revenue generated from this will be entirely grassroots. If a ChipIn raises, say $5000 and pays for the production and airing of a TV ad, is it not grassroots because the people working in the ad agency got paid?
 
honestly i really don't want this being yet another debate thread.

Its not money making per se, i honestly don't believe they will keep any profit. just have some salaries for the staffers, and all money goes to the blimp. just makes it easier with more legal complications that probably result from a non-profit

and Jagwarr: yes, there is a $5000 limit, and money donated to the official campaign counts towards that.
 
Is there a way to delete all subsequent posts from the initial to keep the debate in the threads?
 
Its not money making per se, i honestly don't believe they will keep any profit. just have some salaries for the staffers, and all money goes to the blimp. just makes it easier with more legal complications that probably result from a non-profit

Both of them quit their jobs because this will pay better.

They have more lawyers than OJ that we now pay??

We have to pay somebody to video this??

They are making money off of us, don't fool yourself.

Now they are selling ad space on the blimp? 1 million dollars per month for a blimp that costs a 3rd of that???
 
Both of them quit their jobs because this will pay better.

They have more lawyers than OJ that we now pay??

We have to pay somebody to video this??

They are making money off of us, don't fool yourself.

Now they are selling ad space on the blimp? 1 million dollars per month for a blimp that costs a 3rd of that???
Uh, they said they're getting paid the same as their old jobs and they even asked for community input on their salaries. Why would you object to professional videotaping of this? It'll be extremely beneficial for media exposure. Ad space now is the same as donations before. 1 million dollars per month? What are you talking about?
 
Now they are selling ad space on the blimp? 1 million dollars per month for a blimp that costs a 3rd of that???


Ope, Another JohnnyWrath lie.... what do you know, he managed ot fit 2 in one post!


Id be careful, I think this guy might be a professional liar.
 
JohnnyWrath, i'm asking you politely here to stop making this thread into another debate. you have plenty of other threads your posting in, this is supposed to answer questions/clarify things for people
 
The moment this became a money making business it stopped being grassroots. Are the grassroots now being asked to stop posting and leave so this newly formed business can florish and begin generating revenue to pay salaries?

This needs to go back to a grassroots effort. One month, $350,000 dollars. No business.

THEN!

We can put up 2 competing models, one for the business approach and one for the grassroots approach and see which is supported to extend the campaign in length and maybe number of blimps. See which one gets better support.

For now, we have a sure thing pre-business model, and a huge maybe after business model. Going with the original plan will make it happen, and takes a ton to time pressure and stress off. Then we can choose which way we want to go, and the business model has a lot of time and leisure to present it's case so it's not a surprise to anyone.

-n
 
This needs to go back to a grassroots effort. One month, $350,000 dollars. No business.

THEN!

We can put up 2 competing models, one for the business approach and one for the grassroots approach and see which is supported to extend the campaign in length and maybe number of blimps. See which one gets better support.

For now, we have a sure thing pre-business model, and a huge maybe after business model. Going with the original plan will make it happen, and takes a ton to time pressure and stress off. Then we can choose which way we want to go, and the business model has a lot of time and leisure to present it's case so it's not a surprise to anyone.

-n
You're missing something: the old plan didn't work. If we created a PAC there would be limits, so all it would be doing would be pulling donations away from the official campaign. The idea here is to have something for maxed out donors to contribute to, not people who haven't yet reached the limit.
 
FYI, the website says $500,000 for one month, not 1 million.

WTF! - you can BUY a blimp for 2 Million! - 4 months of operation for what it costs to own one??? I mean $350,000 was pushing reality, but this new budget... *WOW!*

-n
 
Back
Top