Piers Morgan is a scumbag

[Vanilluxe]

how far back are you going on the stats on this?

Truthfully these are recent stats that I acquired for homework on pol sci class.

 

[Todd]

You know what..........

Damn people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'reilly

They have taught an entire generation of idiots who listen to Political news and commentary these days to argue in logical fallacies. I know....I used to be one.

If one of those guys isn't building up the Strawman argument, then they are cutting you off and calling you an asshat as the basis of their argument refutation. That's the basis of what most call modern "debate".

Good ol' Piers Morgan. Keeping the tradition of Dumming down our discourse.

 

[JK/SEA]

it's a pleasure. we'll hear of each other when the next lunatic runs amok and kills i don't know how many people.
until then i follow this madness and all those crazy 19th century cowboy mentality.
from the save distance it can get so absurd that it becomes funny.

2 dimensional thinking, and emotional responses are not helpful. What needs to be done on the 'gun' issue is that NOTHING needs to be done. We ...meaning Americans.. have this thing called the Constitution. I suggest reading the history of this document and WHY it was crafted. Can you tell me how many good people have died to gain this document and keep it?

 

[JK/SEA]

Truthfully these are recent stats that I acquired for homework on pol sci class.

hmmm..ok..well,in order to get a true fix on this, i would just say that a real figure would have to include the Jews who were murdered by Nazi's due to the fact guns were banned prior to the gas and oven chambers.

 

[vienna]

2 dimensional thinking, and emotional responses are not helpful. What needs to be done on the 'gun' issue is that NOTHING needs to be done. We ...meaning Americans.. have this thing called the Constitution. I suggest reading the history of this document and WHY it was crafted. Can you tell me how many good people have died to gain this document and keep it?

that's of course what is called 3 dimensional thinking, right?
well the constitution, as we all know, was given to you by jesus.
and jesus said that every american needs at least 10 sturmgewehre, 20 machine guns and a few kilos of pistols to protect yourselve from indians, the queen of england and a tyrannical government.

in the meantime. don't forget to protect yourselve from your mad neighbours. they are sometimes becoming tyrannical too.
and with all those guns around it ends up like we see in all those fancy statistics which places the us among all those nice developing countries.

 

[JK/SEA]

that's of course what is called 3 dimensional thinking, right?
well the constitution, as we all know, was given to you by jesus.
and jesus said that every american needs at least 10 sturmgewehre, 20 machine guns and a few kilos of pistols to protect yourselve from indians, the queen of england and a tyrannical government.

in the meantime. don't forget to protect yourselve from your mad neighbours. they are sometimes becoming tyrannical too.
and with all those guns around it ends up like we see in all those fancy statistics which places the us among all thos freedom loving developing countries.

You make it sound like there a mass killings going on every hour of the day...lol...and you know what?..i'm 61, live in the Seattle area, and i have NEVER even seen anyone mass killing people, or, thank God, never seen anyone shooting anyone. Me thinks you watch too many Italian westerns.

 

[James Madison]

2 dimensional thinking, and emotional responses are not helpful. What needs to be done on the 'gun' issue is that NOTHING needs to be done. We ...meaning Americans.. have this thing called the Constitution. I suggest reading the history of this document and WHY it was crafted. Can you tell me how many good people have died to gain this document and keep it?

What needs to be done involves stopping the insane War on Drugs. Legalize the drugs and most of the gun violence will stop.

 

[vienna]

You make it sound like there a mass killings going on every hour of the day...lol...and you know what?..i'm 61, live in the Seattle area, and i have NEVER even seen anyone mass killing people, or, thank God, never seen anyone shooting anyone. Me thinks you watch too many Italian westerns.

you haven't seen the war in iraq or afghanistan either, have you?
but still it's an issue, isn't it?

there is a reality outside of your world which can be pinned down in statistics and you can compare those with other countries.
and guess what. the usa are doing terribly ... compared to other developed western countries. of course not if you compare your country to somalia.
but i guess there are different standards out there for what is considered to be a low rate of murder.

 

[JK/SEA]

you haven't seen the war in iraq or afghanistan either, have you?
but still it's an issue, isn't it?

there is a reality outside of your world which can be pinned down in statistics and you can compare those with other countries.
and guess what. the usa are doing terribly ... compared to other developed western countries. of course not if you compare your country to somalia.
but i guess there are different standards out there for what is considered to be a low rate of murder.

What does Iraq and Afganistan have to do with the 2nd Amendment?...

answer: nothing.

 

[tttppp]

aren't you conspiracy guys constantly talking about the "industrial military complex" or however it's called?
haven't they sold you already enough ridiculously oversized guns?

your homocide rate is the one of a developing country. and you still think that the answer is more guns?
you people are completely mental. following this discussion is a bit like watching exotic animals in a zoo.
it's so ridiculously absurd it's becoming funny.

I dont think you get the point. It reallly doesnt matter how big the guns are that are sold. If a higher percentage of people are carrying guns, people just arent going to try the kind of shit we have been seeing. A friend of mine once told me, if everyone had a gone, if one person tried something, he would have 20 guns pointed right back at him.

 

[Pericles]

you haven't seen the war in iraq or afghanistan either, have you?
but still it's an issue, isn't it?

there is a reality outside of your world which can be pinned down in statistics and you can compare those with other countries.
and guess what. the usa are doing terribly ... compared to other developed western countries. of course not if you compare your country to somalia.
but i guess there are different standards out there for what is considered to be a low rate of murder.

The following countries in North and South America have lower murder rates than the US: Argentina, Canada, Chile.

Are you suggesting that we need to import more west Europeans and East Asians?

 

[AGRP]

Hes an indifferent actor. If his script told him to stand up for gun rights hed do that too.

 

[vienna]

I dont think you get the point. It reallly doesnt matter how big the guns are that are sold. If a higher percentage of people are carrying guns, people just arent going to try the kind of shit we have been seeing. A friend of mine once told me, if everyone had a gone, if one person tried something, he would have 20 guns pointed right back at him.

usually one has to pay money to hear hilarious stuff like that.
in which world do you people live? who did you think came up with that shit? the "military industrial complex" i guess.
in reality ... in the reality we live in ... if everybody is constantly armed ... and everybody would point with his or her gun at someone else ... there would be shootings and killings every single day. and that's what reality shows us and what you'll find in the statistics.
look. it's very easy. over here there are very few guns and we have very few deaths because of guns. that's what reality shows us.
and that's what actual police men will tell you. if everyone behaves like a 19th century clint eastwood character ... we would live in a world of bloodshed.

 

[vienna]

The following countries in North and South America have lower murder rates than the US: Argentina, Canada, Chile.

Are you suggesting that we need to import more west Europeans and East Asians?

you should watch and learn from countries which are doing way better than you.

 

[tttppp]

usually one has to pay money to hear hilarious stuff like that.
in which world do you people live? who did you think came up with that shit? the "military industrial complex" i guess.
in reality ... in the reality we live in ... if everybody is constantly armed ... and everybody would point with his or her gun at someone else ... there would be shootings and killings every single day. and that's what reality shows us and what you'll find in the statistics.
look. it's very easy. over here there are very few guns and we have very few deaths because of guns. that's what reality shows us.
and that's what actual police men will tell you. if everyone behaves like a 19th century clint eastwood character ... we would live in a world of bloodshed.

Thats not my plan. My plan would encourage more gun ownership by people with clean backgrounds and pych testing. Having more good people with guns prevents crime because criminals have to take into consideration that person might have a gun.

 

[belian78]

I think Piers is among us, ladies and gents.

 

[Pericles]

you should watch and learn from countries which are doing way better than you.

I have lived in Germany for 4 years and Switzerland for 11 years. Ich kann auch Deutsch sprechen.

I'd consider myself better informed about Europe, than you are about the United States. Individual liberty entails accepting some degree of risk, and there are a number of us in the US who accept that risk, and will not allow our rights to suffer further infringement, to the point of insurrection.

 

[vienna]

Thats not my plan. My plan would encourage more gun ownership by people with clean backgrounds and pych testing. Having more good people with guns prevents crime because criminals have to take into consideration that person might have a gun.

they have to consider that already. but if they are armed too and surprise you and start to shoot as soon as they enter the room then they won ...
but still .... in reality ... not in your fantasy land ... in reality ... the statistics make a clear argument.
america is doing terribly compared to the other western countries.
over here there are less guns and less killings with guns. that's the reality. if you prefer to live in fantasy land than this is your decision.

 

[vienna]

I have lived in Germany for 4 years and Switzerland for 11 years. Ich kann auch Deutsch sprechen.

I'd consider myself better informed about Europe, than you are about the United States. Individual liberty entails accepting some degree of risk, and there are a number of us in the US who accept that risk, and will not allow our rights to suffer further infringement, to the point of insurrection.

well i don't care about your self perception.
we have statistics which make a clear argument.
and you can go and tell your argument of freedom to those people and children who lie a few feet under the earth now.

 

[belian78]

Statistics can be made to say anything you want, if you do it right. If only those people buried right now had, had a way to protect themselves they may be alive today.