PHOTOS: Rand Paul Visits The Western Wall

[July]

He's not "bowing his head" he's practically sucking his dick. A nod of the head or at the most bow of about 15 degrees should have done it. One would think that a president of the U.S. could receive a little coaching. From someone, say, an ambassador?

45 degrees is the correct angle for a very formal situation, like say, meeting an emperor... It's certainly not an every day bow.... it can be used among equals and doesn't just mean an apology.

Obama didn't quite do it right. But so what? The media used this to promote vague feelings of nationalism at the time...a sentiment which only came back to bite us later when Ron tried to talk about a rational foreign policy during his campaign. There are plenty of real issues to attack Obama on but the "apology tour" thing was always a distraction, IMO.

 

[Tpoints]

45 degrees is the correct angle for a very formal situation

so when do you do 90 degrees?

 

[July]

so when do you do 90 degrees?

For like visiting a shrine or temple, or like...when offering condolences, as a very deep sign of regret, or show of deep respect to a very important person. Most of the time though if it's supposed to be as an apology or show of regret, you're supposed to hold the bow there for several seconds, not just a quick down and up.

Anyways this is all kind of irrelevant, IMO...at the time the Japanese media didn't really care at first, and the US media didn't go into nuance. It's all about whether it is acceptable for a US pres (or candidate) to engage in other cultural practices when visiting leaders in other countries. The right wants us to think the US is above all other nations, while the left pushes this sort of idea of world citizenship....so these situations just get used for political purposes often.

 

[phill4paul]

45 degrees is the correct angle for a very formal situation, like say, meeting an emperor... It's certainly not an every day bow.... it can be used among equals and doesn't just mean an apology.

Obama didn't quite do it right. But so what? The media used this to promote vague feelings of nationalism at the time...a sentiment which only came back to bite us later when Ron tried to talk about a rational foreign policy during his campaign. There are plenty of real issues to attack Obama on but the "apology tour" thing was always a distraction, IMO.

How low did Akihito bow? Also, he looks like a goddamned pigeon bobbing his head up and down. He really needed a coach.



Oh and here he is practically fucking genuflecting..........

 

[Romulus]

Islam and Christianity have a lot in common, in fact, all three religions do because they are all Abrahamic. That said, no respecting Christian should be wearing a Kippah or Yamaka. How many Jews do you see wearing Crosses and making pilgrimages to the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Vatican, or any Protestant Churches?

Exactly..its a sign of dominance... onward Christian soldiers..

 

[July]

How low did Akihito bow? Also, he looks like a goddamned pigeon bobbing his head up and down. He really needed a coach.

Akihito's bow is quick... and well he was meeting them right at the palace, in Japan, so Obama was technically a guest there... Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Obama...just saying, take the media interpretation with a grain of salt, that's all.

I don't know about his other bow.

 

[loveableteddybear]

Nice Yamaka Rand

Lowest Common Denominator, I don't know a single Jew impressed by a stunt like that.

 

[Tpoints]

Lowest Common Denominator, I don't know a single Jew impressed by a stunt like that.

But I bet you know a lot of Jews that are offended if he didn't.

 

[cero]

 

[Dystopian]

There were some posters on here saying that everyone was required to wear the yarmulke. According to this video, that is obviously not the case.

Why are there so many pictures being taken? Is this a sacred religious experience or a photo op to go show AIPAC?

 

[KrokHead]

But I bet you know a lot of Jews that are offended if he didn't.

Then those same Jews will vote for democrats who want Israel erased from the map, go figure.

 

[Tpoints]

Then those same Jews will vote for democrats who want Israel erased from the map, go figure.

Who would that be? Which Democrat in this country wants Israel wiped off the map? Howard Dean?

 

[FriedChicken]

I haven't read all 10 pages but ... am I correct in assuming that there are some people here upset about Rand's little hat?

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

I haven't read all 10 pages but ... am I correct in assuming that there are some people here upset about Rand's little hat?

Some people think that if you wear a hat you have been converted, bought out or some nonsense.

 

[FriedChicken]

Some people think that if you wear a hat you have been converted, bought out or some nonsense.

Thanks for filling me in.

 

[timosman]

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