Phonebanking Platform for Iowa

[FriedChicken]

why the heck doesn't the campaign have a phonebank yet? I haven't made the first call yet, though I have said I would by now, due to a unique situation with my phone line but I honestly think that if everyone stays on script with this and follows all the instructions given about making the calls it is 100x better than doing nothing while waiting on the campaign to do something.
Open ended phone calls? Have you read the script? They're not open ended. If you disagree with the script fine, but don't give people the wrong impression of whats going on.

We would be much better off if this controvesy didn't exists. I'm partially upset with the campaign for starting this fiasco - they waited till after all the hardwork was already done to say anything about doing their own phone bank then they come here and divide up the members of this forum. Unity is of greater value than either phonebank.

I think we would be in a better position to win IA if the entire grassroots got behind tobefree's phonebank instead of every thread on the matter getting trolled/hijacked by people demonizing their efforts.

Stop fighting. Everyone knows what everyone thinks ... if you disagree then stop posting in these threads and let the people who believe in this work together.

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[tangent4ronpaul]

We would be much better off if this controversy didn't exists. I'm partially upset with the campaign for starting this fiasco - they waited till after all the handwork was already done to say anything about doing their own phone bank then they come here and divide up the members of this forum. Unity is of greater value than either phone bank.

Deja vu

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Ok, Occam's Razor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Here's some simple explanations for the campaign's behavior. The campaign believes that untrained grass roots people can get off message and end up hurting more than helping. The campaign does not want grass roots people from out of state arguing with Iowans. The campaign wants the calls to be made so that they can use the data most efficiently. A ton of good reason for why the campaign does not want grass roots doing any number of things.

If you'd like to help the campaign by covering a county fair, contact the campaign and ask for instructions. Much of grass roots can be, and should be, supervised by the campaign. And if the campaign doesn't want you to do something, you should listen to them and follow their instructions.

Why does this remind me of the HS or undergraduate college administration?

You do realize you are talking to libertarians - right? Guess you are not one... We don't do that shit...

 

[parocks]

Good one. Right, I'm a Conservative Republican like Ron Paul. And you're right, Libertarians always lose.

Ron Paul is not running in the Libertarian primary. If I had to guess, I'd say that Ron Paul could win the Libertarian nomination
even with poorly instructed "helpers" running around off message, calling people on the phone, failing to obtain useful data.

But Ron Paul is running in the Republican primary.

Why does this remind me of the HS or undergraduate college administration?

You do realize you are talking to libertarians - right? Guess you are not one... We don't do that shit...

 

[cheapseats]

. . . gathering the data we want on Iowa voters to use in whatever ways we think are best. Certainly, the Ron Paul supporters will be contacted by someone, ideally from the campaign, and they can be given the Ron Paul message.

That is plain fucking CREEPY. Department of Homeland Security, Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, domestic surveillance cameras fucking everywhere, ad nauseam are all predicated on the same philosophy: TRUST US. HIGHER UPS KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. How has that worked out for America thus far? Hell, how has that worked out trying to nudge a 30-YEAR VETERAN OF CONGRESS to the Oval Office?

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[tangent4ronpaul]

That is plain fucking CREEPY. Department of Homeland Security, Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, domestic surveillance cameras fucking everywhere, ad nauseam are all predicated on the same philosophy: TRUST US. HIGHER UPS KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. How has that worked out for America thus far? Hell, how has that worked out trying to nudge a 30-YEAR VETERAN OF CONGRESS to the Oval Office?

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Yeah - it rubbed me the wrong way too. GOOD POST!

+rep

 

[parocks]

Excellent. Do you have a map of Iowa, so you can tell what district in Iowa you're calling, so that you can direct them to the official campaign if they want to volunteer?
They won't know what district they're in, probably.

Wanted to share a success story. One of our callers from Georgia on his very first call a couple weeks ago spoke to a Democrat who is a Ron Paul supporter that committed to going to the Straw Poll. His friends are also Ron Paul supporters and thinks he can get 4-5 others to attend. I followed up a week later to confirm and we have 5-6 potential attendees! I'm going to call the person the end of June to get a hard count. (This supporter has already gotten two calls from us and I'm going to follow up with a third... so much for calling too much .. this is called nurturing a lead to some.. to me we are just making new friends of liberty in Iowa!)

I made just 50 calls today and got one Ron Paul supporter who was going to be away Aug. 13th. I told her to see if she can find friends, family, neighbors that are supporters and that I'll follow up in a month. She told me she doesn't know too many people that are supporters, but she will do her best.

Anyways, it will usually take probably take between 200-500 calls to get one supporter.... but imagine if we get 1,500 people doing this and we only get 5 commitments each.. that'll give us 7,500 commitments!! This is a numbers game and we need all our volunteers on board!

Please join us:
www.rp2012.org

BTW we are mainly calling Independents with some voting history except in Ames and those that are ages 18-25. (We are calling all voters in those categories)

 

[parocks]

It's how successful campaigns are run. Every. Single. One.

It's too bad that organization reminds you of a loss of civil liberties.

People doing whatever they think is a good idea at the time is a bad idea.

Successful campaigns are much like MILITARY OPERATIONS. Sorry to tell you that. But that's the way it works.

You're the TROOPS. Sign in, and wait to be mobilized. Until then, you're TAXPAYERS. Contribute.

Grass Roots also can also do Special OPs, off the book type things.

But you don't have a bunch of people putting on uniforms and doing whatever they want. When you're hyping Ron Paul, you're wearing a Ron Paul uniform.
You're representing him in some way.

But, basically, there are people from Halliburton working with the Military to achieve goals in Iraq. Or they were. The Campaign is the Military, the grassroots is Halliburton.

How is the Iowa Housing project going?

Here's a new project.

Iowa Band Project. Contact all bands in Iowa. Determine if they will play a Free Ron Paul Show, for full pay. Determine if they will play a Free Ron Paul Show for a reduced pay, and for free. They, all of them, want attention, and are out there to be contacted. They also have fans themself, and can influence a lot of voters.

http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/main/bes_chart?genre=all&genre_geo=Local&page=1 Reverb nation allows you to search by locality. There are 180 bands in Ames, some have a lot of fans.

They also aren't probably being contacted by the official campaign in this manner. Instead of making call after call after call, just go on facebook or whatever and ask them the questions. You could ask how much they ususally cost, and how much they'd play for, and if they say don't know, put down don't know. If this project goes well, people in bands will believe, but won't know for sure, that there will be FREE RON PAUL SHOWS, and they might get money from those free shows.

I'm not against grassroots projects, but there are areas that official campaigns just OWN, it's their area. They have a strategy. They might not think it best to randomly call Iowans about a straw poll that a tiny fraction of Iowans go to. And it's up to them to make that decision.
If you're tearing down Mitt Romney in some clever and funny way, you're not wearing a Ron Paul uniform.

That is plain fucking CREEPY. Department of Homeland Security, Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, domestic surveillance cameras fucking everywhere, ad nauseam are all predicated on the same philosophy: TRUST US. HIGHER UPS KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. How has that worked out for America thus far? Hell, how has that worked out trying to nudge a 30-YEAR VETERAN OF CONGRESS to the Oval Office?

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[ForLibertyFight]

Ames Straw Poll is either going to make or break our campaign. We need all the help we can get.

www.rp2012.org