phone lines!!!

[newbitech]

I respect your opinion. I do, however, feel that this would not be a waste of time as the disruption of their business could be enough to get RP into the debate. His absence will be very detrimental to his candidacy because sadly, there are a great many Americans who think that, if they don't see him in the debate, then he must "not have a chance". I just spent three days with my own mother who kept making that argument. "I never see him on TV, so he doesn't have a chance." she stubbornly repeated.

Thanks for your feedback!

no problem, I understand and support the idea, i just won't be doing it. I have called and emailed the local affiliates, called and emailed several national advertisers, called and emailed the corporate office, digg-dugged and commented several articles, found Chris Wallace's email address.

Now I am off to "preach the Ron Paul gospel" at a big Saturday night Football party where I am well know for my hatred of everything commercial on the TV including news.

I would suggest going out to sports bars and getting the drunk sports fans (who are dying to see the Pats win or lose tonight) riled up over this media conspiracy.

Have fun shutting down the Fox phones lines! I know you will pull it off!

FWIW, my dad is the same way about the media. Say RP has no chance cause he isn't getting covered. I just told my dad, Look, how did presidents get elected before TV and radio was around? that stopped that argument cold. Of course my dad knows why I threw my tv down a flight of stairs some 5 years ago soo...

 

[jeff_from_VA]

I think you have an obligation to contact the appropriate authorities.. and for your own safety, you should no longer associate with us criminals.

I feel legal protest and non violence are the best approach.


Sure, we could do lots of things that attract attention. I bet if we all rape the wife of a fox news affiliate we will all make the news too!!!!! I bet that coverage won't be very favorable or helpful though, just like this.

I bet we could start burning down buildings and flipping cars. Again, it won't help Dr. Paul.

Things like boycotting advertisers, voicing concern, street protests outside the buildings of Fox News, are all legal.

You all should consider who you want to win the election, and how you make that person look when you behave badly in his name.

Trying to do a distributed denial of service attack, is neither legal, ethical, nor mature.

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

An organized effort to bring down a network is most certainly illegal. DOS attack is Denial Of Service.

This is not an attempt to voice concern, the title of the thread is "Shut down their phone lines" and is an attempt to prevent them the use of their phone systems by method of distributed attack. It is a crime, and will look real petty when played out on the news....

So, are they going to arrest several hundred thousand of us for making phone calls? I'm not really concerned about some petty grey area that may or may not be construed as an illegal act. The REAL illegal act here is the intentional manipulation of a federal election by a licensed broadcaster. A phone bomb should be the least of their concerns.

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

It'll just perpetuate the idea that we're a bunch of crazy spammers, plus the more we aggravate FOX before they relent and invite him (which we know they will, it's only a matter of time) the worse they'll treat Ron when he finally gets on.

"we know they will"? Do you know something I don't?

 

[louisiana4liberty]

An organized effort to bring down a network is most certainly illegal. DOS attack is Denial Of Service.

This is not an attempt to voice concern, the title of the thread is "Shut down their phone lines" and is an attempt to prevent them the use of their phone systems by method of distributed attack. It is a crime, and will look real petty when played out on the news....

I completely agree with this statement.

 

[jeff_from_VA]

So, are they going to arrest several hundred thousand of us for making phone calls? I'm not really concerned about some petty grey area that may or may not be construed as an illegal act. The REAL illegal act here is the intentional manipulation of a federal election by a licensed broadcaster. A phone bomb should be the least of their concerns.

I fail to see why not being arrested and prosecuted is any factor between right or wrong.

I see you subscribe to the two wrongs makes a right theory.


By sinking to their level, we give them the win automatically. They get to see how Ron Paul's support comes from nothing but common criminals, and run with that angle.

I for one am behind Dr. Paul, and hopes he can pull off a win, in spite of the people supporting things like this.

 

[idiom]

We are a big bunch of crazy spammers. We a really really really BIG bunch though.

 

[TheWhiteRider]

I like the idea. Really I don't care if they spin this negatively, because they can take anything and spin it negatively. Number One priority is getting Dr. Paul's name out, and this will help, whether its negatively spun or not, who cares, people are starting to see through Fox News, and maybe they'll be intrigued by the story enough to look up the truth for themselves. But we really need anything to get Paul's name out seeing as the tea party didn't work.

 

[TheWhiteRider]

oh wait this is illegal? wha? can anyone clarify exactly how this is illegal?

 

[BravoSix]

Please cite the appropriate statute or statutes under which you make this claim of unlawfulness. I'd like to see it.

 

[jeff_from_VA]

oh wait this is illegal? wha? can anyone clarify exactly how this is illegal?

It is a deliberate and coordinated attempt to prevent them from using their phone network. This makes it a denial of service attack, not a protest.

 

[matthylland]

please read my signature....

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

I feel legal protest and non violence are the best approach.


Sure, we could do lots of things that attract attention. I bet if we all rape the wife of a fox news affiliate we will all make the news too!!!!! I bet that coverage won't be very favorable or helpful though, just like this.

I bet we could start burning down buildings and flipping cars. Again, it won't help Dr. Paul.

I hardly think an organized phone blitz ranks up there with rape, burning down buildings, etc.

You all should consider who you want to win the election, and how you make that person look when you behave badly in his name.

Again, I don't see an organized phone blitz as "behaving badly". This bold and illegal action by Fox comes at a time when the stakes are high... very high! We cannot sit back and send letters to be shredded and e-mails to be deleted. I'm damned tired of the actions of an illegal government... killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, sacrificing our own soldiers for the neocon's nation building, etc., etc., etc. And I don't give a shit if the MSM tries to paint us in a bad light. They do that every day already.

I've been fighting this battle for twenty years. Ron Paul is the best shot we have and we'd better start growing a pair and be prepared to do whatever is necessary to improve his odds of getting elected.

Thanks for your comments. I respectfully disagree with them.

Does anybody else have any good reason why we shouldn't do this?

 

[TheWhiteRider]

It is a deliberate and coordinated attempt to prevent them from using their phone network. This makes it a denial of service attack, not a protest.

I read a bit about Dos attacks and it seems they are usually in computers and internet service not telephones, and sure it may be called a Dos attack not a protest, but I didn't find anything saying there was a legal issue

So can anyone clarify if Dos attacks are legal or not? Maybe it varies by state? Anyone know?

 

[BravoSix]

It is a deliberate and coordinated attempt to prevent them from using their phone network. This makes it a denial of service attack, not a protest.

He asked what makes it illegal. You did not answer the question.

How do you reach the conclusion that this is unlawful?

 

[jeff_from_VA]

I've been fighting this battle for twenty years. Ron Paul is the best shot we have and we'd better start growing a pair and be prepared to do whatever is necessary to improve his odds of getting elected.

I have a few dozen firearms, maybe we could all work together and just bypass the elections with an overthrow?

See the problems with doing things the wrong way, even if for the right reasons?

 

[matthylland]

I have a few dozen firearms, maybe we could all work together and just bypass the elections with an overthrow?

See the problems with doing things the wrong way, even if for the right reasons?

Jeff, surely you must notice that calling their phone lines is different than overthrowing the government...

As i said before, simply dont participate in it

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

I have a few dozen firearms, maybe we could all work together and just bypass the elections with an overthrow?

See the problems with doing things the wrong way, even if for the right reasons?

Now you equate a phone blitz to an armed intervention. That's bullshit. You're the one who has asserted that a phone blitz is illegal. A number of people have asked you what law applies here. If you know, fine... what is it. If you're just speculating, then we've all noted your speculation.

In pursuit of productivity, can anybody cite any law that would be broken if we all got called Fox News in an organized fashion? I doubt if there is, but that's what this forum is about.

 

[dircha]

Flooding someone's phone lines for the purpose of rendering them inoperable may be illegal.

But flooding someone's phone lines for the purpose of getting in touch with them and talking to them to voice your concerns is NOT.

 

[TheWhiteRider]

The question remains....