Petitions to substitute the Boers for other "refugees"

[dannno]

You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bullshit? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.

 

[Swordsmyth]

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.

He knows that.

 

[Influenza]

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.

You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)

Am sure it has been pointed out, most of the peoples that are being targeted by elitist agendas are peoples that are strongly independent and liberty minded, since they are a direct threat to their system

 

[Swordsmyth]

You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

"Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.

 

[Influenza]

"Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.

sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

• the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.
  
  
  
  you might need to give your definition then
  
  
  
  

 

[dannno]

You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

What we need to do is like what we did with separating church and state by getting rid of identity politics which we can do by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in income that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.

 

[Lamp]

The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

What we need to do is separate church and state as well as get rid of identity politics by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in come that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.

And most non secularists who amble their way into Parliament expect everyone else to worship the state as well in addition to their own God. Except outside of the US its arguably worse. Time for them to get some hobbies instead of creating more mischief.

 

[Swordsmyth]

sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

• the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.
  
  
  
  you might need to give your definition then

Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.

 

[dannno]

sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important]noun: secularism[/COLOR]

• the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.
  
  
  
  you might need to give your definition then

That's interesting, I had no idea that was the definition of secular. I thought it meant non-religious.

Colloquially I think people generally view a secular society as one that is largley non-religious, as opposed to a religious society that simply resides in a country that allows freedom of religion.

 

[Lamp]

Bang. Hit the nail on the head.

What a crock of shit. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else with no regard to history. "Maybe we should help fund and support these industrious white capitalists start a white capitalist abrahamic revolution and save them from the onslaught of the black ****** communist pagan peoples since they have obviously helped the country by creating communists out of them in the first place not that that matters". You wanna help the Boers then do it for them as individuals.

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

are you an idiot or what ?

 

[Swordsmyth]

bang.

What a crock of $#@!. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else....

Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.

 

[Lamp]

anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

are you an idiot or what ?

Nobody should be a concern. But somehow a minority of people feel as though that they should. Those ships used to bring them over surely won't be government owned will they?

 

[dannno]

Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.

 

[Influenza]

Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.

I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get fuckin lost

 

[Lamp]

I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get fuckin lost

You tell him. People that want to shove their dicks in other people faces through public demonstrations ought to get a FUCKIN hobby.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here.

Now, giving whites in SA money is no good when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse.

I agree, as I said I would rather have a 10 year immigration freeze but if we are going to bring in refugees the Boers are really in danger and they are a closer fit with our culture.

 

[Lamp]

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.

How are you going to bring them over here again?

 

[dannno]

How are you going to bring them over here again?

Like I said, I think most people here agree the government should stay out of it, but if there are going to be people coming here on boats, planes, or whatever, then let's be selective.