Petition Campaign for 2012 Election! What do you think about "Americal Elect" ???

[s35wf]

I occasionally do petition work. Usually non partisan for some local issues. However I received this info recently from ProVote America (site is provoteamerica.com) This is beginning first in the State of CA. Im in florida, so not actively involved yet. If you believe this is a good thing and your needing work or low on funds you could be involved as a paid petition circulator. If you dont need any $, i'm sure you could volunteer your time.

If Ron Paul does NOT run as a republican or Does Not get the republican nomination, this might help him run as an independant; or someone else from a third party run.

It appears the group that is funding this "campaign or petition" is a group called "America Elect" which appears to be funded by the "Tuft University". I always investigate who & what is behind any paid political work i've been involved in. Obviously some gigs ive accepted, some i've turned down. So what do you all think about this gig???

"When a candidate wants to run for office, or an organization wants to run candidates, they have to get nomination signatures. Americans Elect is non-partisan, so they have to collect a lot more signatures than normal. Simply the petition is "to nominate Americans Elect, a grassroots organization, so they can run candidates next year." Nominations are typically the easiest type of petition to signatures on, because there's so little controversy involved with letting more people to run for office. More choice is better.

Unlike an initiative or referendum petition, there is no agenda with a nomination, so there is no summary to speak of and no information other than the organization or candidate's name is allowed by law on the petition.

If the occasional person asks what the platform is or what the group stands for, this is the cool part. Americans Elect is going to hold an open vote from the public to choose the platform American Idol-style, except that it will be restricted to one vote per registered voter."

 

[dntrpltt]

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[s35wf]

Got this in my "inbox" WOULD SOME OUT IN CA GET OFF YOUR ASS & PARTICIPATE IN THIS:!!!


Here's the deal. No more directory, no more waiting for someone other than Owen to qualify to coach. Just go to a meetup, pick up paper and work. Anybody can pick up paper tomorrow any time at 10730 Church St, Rancho Cucamonga. Text 909-276-7566 and I'll meet you downstairs. I will do a live training over the web on Friday.

This coming Sunday will be the make it or break it for this organization. If we get a good turn-in, we'll abandon the 1,000 signature bonus and pay a 20¢ referral override on Americans Elect. If not, I'll shut down ProVote America.

 

[s35wf]

Need help in ca!

another message in my inbox:

am 100% volunteering on ProVote America. I have years of experience and access to coordinator overrides, even though coordinating is no longer my career. The purpose of ProVote is to roll out new technology, better equip petitioners and give them a chance to make better money since petitioning often doesn't pay well on its own. I have invested $5,500 in infrastructure and am spending $500 per week in expenses (mostly courier services). But 200 signatures submitted in three weeks is not sustainable. I can volunteer, but I cannot also be a donor and a target for deceptive, conspiracy theory

Any work you do by Sunday, you will get paid for no matter what. The earnings database is up and integrated; I only need to link website user ID's to database ID's, which is barely any work. The only question is whether this opportunity continues past Sunday, and that is 100% up to you. If you don't have paper, come to my apartment today, and I'll give you some. The address is in the announcements.

I wouldn't have invested so much if I didn't want to things succeed, so I hope all of you work this weekend. I've gotten feedback that many of you plan to. And a trio of gals from Victorville give me hope.

 

[s35wf]

Soo....Please CA get intouch with ProVoteAmerica.com and PARTICIPATE!!!

 

[s35wf]

update on CA areas:

A reminder, since it's been such a bottleneck, coaching has been removed as a step to get started, and I will train newbies over the web at 1PM today. The link will be posted beforehand. Anybody who wants to work this weekend can pick up paper today at 10730 Church St, Rancho Cucamonga. Text 909-276-7566 and I'll meet you downstairs.

Since nobody submitted work in Long Beach, we're not going to lease office space there. Ben will instead meet in the parking lot outside the office we were going to lease. Look for a silver Lexus minivan with the back open.

There are a few areas where we've arranged to not have to pay for intake/courier services. If we don't hit our target, circulators in these areas may still be able to work. These include Corona, Irvine, Merced, Palm Springs, Rancho Cucamonga, and Santa Rosa. Riverside and Victorville will be added to that list. On the chopping block for insufficient activity is Los Angeles County and Hemet, the areas where we have no qualified coaches and no experienced petitioners submitting work yet.

 

[Wiseburn]

I believe Ron Paul did not need any petition signatures to get on the CA ballot in 2007. He did need a slate of delegates and alternates for the 2008 GOP National Convention filed with the SecState.

Petitioning for Ballot Propositions and Initiatives is useful for California, as it can take hundreds of thousands of signatures to put initiatives on the statewide ballot.

Thanks,
Steve

 

[foadi]

pretty sure provote america is michael rhodes who is just a sub of jsm. why would anyone want jenny touching their money?

this americans elect petition kinda sucks. not great money. hoping for better petitions to come out. pension reform might be coming out soon. a statewide.

theres also a pension reform petition in san diego coming out and another to allow nonunion contractors to bid for city jobs, might head down there for that even tho sd sucks for petitioning.

 

[s35wf]

pretty sure provote america is michael rhodes who is just a sub of jsm. why would anyone want jenny touching their money?

this americans elect petition kinda sucks. not great money. hoping for better petitions to come out. pension reform might be coming out soon. a statewide.

theres also a pension reform petition in san diego coming out and another to allow nonunion contractors to bid for city jobs, might head down there for that even tho sd sucks for petitioning.

Who or What is JSM???

Also IF you know of any petition work coming up here in FL; please let me know.

 

[s35wf]

I believe Ron Paul did not need any petition signatures to get on the CA ballot in 2007. He did need a slate of delegates and alternates for the 2008 GOP National Convention filed with the SecState.

Petitioning for Ballot Propositions and Initiatives is useful for California, as it can take hundreds of thousands of signatures to put initiatives on the statewide ballot.

Thanks,
Steve

Ron DID NOT NEED petition signatures for ballot access cuz he was running on the REPUBLICAN ballot. However Independents & 3rd Party Candidates DO NEED Petition Signatures to Gain Ballot access!

 

[foadi]

Who or What is JSM???

Also IF you know of any petition work coming up here in FL; please let me know.

JSM is JSM inc, jenny breslins petition management company. she controls orange and most of LA county, at least on APC petitions, which is what this americans elect petition is. she's a crook and a bad person, but at the same time she gets a lot of work so most of us are forced to deal w/ her from time to time. provote keeps on placing ads on jenny's turf, so i srsly doubt they're not her subs.

dont know of any FL work, sorry. there was supposed to be statewides earlier this year but it never materialized/never heard about it aside from a countywide in miami dade. was disappointed, FL is a good state to work in teh winter.

 

[Rick1]

It appears that Mike Arno has serious problems not related to this petition drive.
His pattern of conduct since the death of his brother is troublesome for any one who circulates petitions.
The wife left him over eastern European whore hopping and his significant other stateside.
On the last two petitions Arno has 'managed', he has cheated his workers and lied to his clients.
His charge backs on electricity were based on a flawed formula (in his favor by 5%-13% depending on county). The more black striping a manager did to try to clean it up, the worse they got screwed. Not content with his managers doing his validity skimming for him, he ‘rewarded’ them by hitting them with across the board charge backs after it was too late.
On the tobacco tax, he refused to file the petition until he was payed “enough to cover the people who stood in front of the stores”. He then scurried away keeping the money for himself and again leaving people unpaid.
In this latest fiasco with Americans Elect, he has already had to refund nearly $30,000.00(opensecrets.org) to Peter Ackerman. While this is not conclusive proof that yet another client caught Arno with his hand in the till,I have never seen a client demand a refund because they had trust in the integrity and/or bookkeeping methods of the consultant.
His other business ventures haven’t done so well either. His partner Rich Nicholas was arrested at a local mall in a tragic case of mistaken identity. It seems the approachable teenager with family problems he met while trolling chat rooms turned out to be an undercover officer. No one ever figured out the relationship between Rich and Mike, but they did share a fascination with video gadgets and teen trends. It also raises the question as to whether Mike’s tireless fundraising efforts to bring a swim center to Rio Americano High School was an act of charity or a cynical ploy to gain access to scantily clad juveniles.
APC used to be the most ethical company in this industry. Unfortunately that ceased with the death of Bill Arno and the return of Linda Petrillo to his bookkeeping department.
Petrillo is there only because she is a semi-skilled liar. Anyone who has had to deal with her sloppy, lazy, mistake prone work ethic knows what I am talking about. Whenever her incompetence is on display she lashes out like a wounded kimodo dragon in a tone reminiscent of a mastodon stuck in a tar pit. She became even worse several years ago when the bank took away her house because she was treating it like an ATM machine. Just recently she was caught lying to unemployment.
People in this industry know how to find me and if/when he rips everyone off, I’m still in the data business, and available to testify if necessary.
For the record I stopped doing his programming because I will not work with people who lie and who’s business practices I can’t defend.
All of the above is a matter of public record or personal opinion. Mike Arno has already been informed by a judge in a court of law as to his lack of legal remedy for anything I have written.
Just my $0.02