economics102
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The new "who is peter schiff? video great for sure, and I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of flack for saying this, but I feel like it's still too mild. Peter's had so many great one-liners over the years and he really has a bite to the things he says, I'm not sure what I would do to improve it exactly (I'll think about it) but it's missing a certain degree of passion and assertiveness that I know Peter has delivered well at other times.
I heard Peter give a speech in NY the night Rand Paul announced his candidacy, it was fantastic. I remember thinking "Rand Paul is awesome and I really want him to win, but THIS guy would be a REAL firebrand if you dropped him into the Senate."
The way most of this video strikes me is that he's someone who is pro-free markets campaigning on that concept. But the way Peter comes across other times I've listened to him is as someone who is pulling the veil of BS off the Wall Street crowd and the government and exposing them, and basically exposing the fact that what we think is capitalism in this country is an illusion. Peter needs to set the bar in defining "real conservatism" as denouncing the phony capitalism we've had for the past decade or four.
Anyway, maybe it's just that I'm desensitized to all those "peter schiff is right" clips because I've seen them so many more times than the target audience of these videos ever will. I just think that this ad comes closer than any previous efforts but still doesn't quite capture Schiff's character and what makes him so appealing.
There's lots of people who can run a campaign in 2010, year of the tea parties, campaigning on capitalism and real conservatism. There's only one Peter Schiff. I think when this becomes a battle between who is the bigger capitalist, it's tough to go up against someone like Linda McMahon. Schiff needs to paint himself as what he is, the wiser-than-the-crowd economics expert who understood and predicted the previous financial crisis and understands the coming collapse as well.
Maybe he needs to play up the doomsday predictions. I know being doom-and-gloom isn't normally a good election strategy, but maybe in a climate where so many people are truly worried about the American economy, this will be appealing. I know personally I find it very appealing hearing the gloomy messages of Ron Paul and Peter Schiff precisely because, as disturbing as it is to hear, what's more disturbing is the politicians who try to tell me the sky is not going to fall, when I can see, CLEARLY, the sky is going to fall if this country doesn't make major changes, and it goes much further than simply repealing ObamaCare, we were screwed long before that monstrosity.
So idunno, I wonder if Schiff shouldn't get back on the ol' hobby horse and go for what made him stand out in the past -- his scarily-gloomy but accurate predictions about how this country is going to fall off the cliff if we don't stop the other 99 senators and 434 congressmen in Washington. Pols like Linda McMahon are not going to risk going so gloomy because they're too traditional. I don't think Schiff really has a Republican machine to face down in CT the way Rand does in KY. Maybe he should really start going after both sides. Or will that make it hard to win the delegates?
Anyway, point is, I think Schiff is doing great stuff in CT and I'm much more optimistic right now than I was a month or so ago when I really didn't think the campaign had a chance. But Schiff is by nature a firebrand and I feel like that's not coming across in his campaign ads for whatever reason.
Imagine a 30-second spot that's just a concentrated pulp of gloomy warnings and predictions from Schiff, forecasting a dollar crisis and all sorts of things that the mainstream politicians aren't even talking about. End the ad with a stern and serious but glimmer-of-hope message from Schiff, like "I'm Peter Schiff, and whether you're liberal or conservative, we're running out of time to stave off a complete economic collapse. We NEED to stop Washington NOW, and I need your help to do it." Catchy, eh?
Speaking of not being a firebrand, the homely sweater he's got on in that video doesn't help either. I know what they were going for and maybe the image of Schiff in his customary suits creates the stereotype of the self-interested capitalist, but seeing him in that blue sweater seems off. Maybe he should have been in a black turtleneck or something, idunno.
Anyway, not to in any way be critical of the current efforts, which are excellent, but anyone have any thoughts on how the Schiff campaign might put their standard bearer to even better use and bring out the essence of the character?
I know everyone's busy marveling at the new ads, but now is the time to have this conversation, not months later when it's too difficult to change course.
By the way one of the best "doom and gloom" videos that captures the kind of tone I think maybe is needed, is this one http://www.youtube.com/user/aravoth#p/u/1/dMM4W-ohVyA made by Aravoth.
I heard Peter give a speech in NY the night Rand Paul announced his candidacy, it was fantastic. I remember thinking "Rand Paul is awesome and I really want him to win, but THIS guy would be a REAL firebrand if you dropped him into the Senate."
The way most of this video strikes me is that he's someone who is pro-free markets campaigning on that concept. But the way Peter comes across other times I've listened to him is as someone who is pulling the veil of BS off the Wall Street crowd and the government and exposing them, and basically exposing the fact that what we think is capitalism in this country is an illusion. Peter needs to set the bar in defining "real conservatism" as denouncing the phony capitalism we've had for the past decade or four.
Anyway, maybe it's just that I'm desensitized to all those "peter schiff is right" clips because I've seen them so many more times than the target audience of these videos ever will. I just think that this ad comes closer than any previous efforts but still doesn't quite capture Schiff's character and what makes him so appealing.
There's lots of people who can run a campaign in 2010, year of the tea parties, campaigning on capitalism and real conservatism. There's only one Peter Schiff. I think when this becomes a battle between who is the bigger capitalist, it's tough to go up against someone like Linda McMahon. Schiff needs to paint himself as what he is, the wiser-than-the-crowd economics expert who understood and predicted the previous financial crisis and understands the coming collapse as well.
Maybe he needs to play up the doomsday predictions. I know being doom-and-gloom isn't normally a good election strategy, but maybe in a climate where so many people are truly worried about the American economy, this will be appealing. I know personally I find it very appealing hearing the gloomy messages of Ron Paul and Peter Schiff precisely because, as disturbing as it is to hear, what's more disturbing is the politicians who try to tell me the sky is not going to fall, when I can see, CLEARLY, the sky is going to fall if this country doesn't make major changes, and it goes much further than simply repealing ObamaCare, we were screwed long before that monstrosity.
So idunno, I wonder if Schiff shouldn't get back on the ol' hobby horse and go for what made him stand out in the past -- his scarily-gloomy but accurate predictions about how this country is going to fall off the cliff if we don't stop the other 99 senators and 434 congressmen in Washington. Pols like Linda McMahon are not going to risk going so gloomy because they're too traditional. I don't think Schiff really has a Republican machine to face down in CT the way Rand does in KY. Maybe he should really start going after both sides. Or will that make it hard to win the delegates?
Anyway, point is, I think Schiff is doing great stuff in CT and I'm much more optimistic right now than I was a month or so ago when I really didn't think the campaign had a chance. But Schiff is by nature a firebrand and I feel like that's not coming across in his campaign ads for whatever reason.
Imagine a 30-second spot that's just a concentrated pulp of gloomy warnings and predictions from Schiff, forecasting a dollar crisis and all sorts of things that the mainstream politicians aren't even talking about. End the ad with a stern and serious but glimmer-of-hope message from Schiff, like "I'm Peter Schiff, and whether you're liberal or conservative, we're running out of time to stave off a complete economic collapse. We NEED to stop Washington NOW, and I need your help to do it." Catchy, eh?
Speaking of not being a firebrand, the homely sweater he's got on in that video doesn't help either. I know what they were going for and maybe the image of Schiff in his customary suits creates the stereotype of the self-interested capitalist, but seeing him in that blue sweater seems off. Maybe he should have been in a black turtleneck or something, idunno.
Anyway, not to in any way be critical of the current efforts, which are excellent, but anyone have any thoughts on how the Schiff campaign might put their standard bearer to even better use and bring out the essence of the character?
I know everyone's busy marveling at the new ads, but now is the time to have this conversation, not months later when it's too difficult to change course.
By the way one of the best "doom and gloom" videos that captures the kind of tone I think maybe is needed, is this one http://www.youtube.com/user/aravoth#p/u/1/dMM4W-ohVyA made by Aravoth.
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