Peter Schiff - "I'm almost tapped out of cash!!, I need your help!"

[Free Moral Agent]

I have confidence in Peter Schiff, otherwise I wouldn't have donated. This is a guy that was really on the fence about running, and now that WE encouraged him to run and he's now in the thick of it, there are some that want to abandon him!? He's already put his money where his mouth is, now its our turn.

 

[squarepusher]

Man, I have been unemployed for over 4 years. I have seen several money bombs for this guy.

Millionaires begging for money ( from poor folks) kind of sets my teeth wrong.

+1

 

[No1ButPaul08]

1. Anyone who thinks Peter isn't loving all of this publicity from the Senate run doesn't know business very well. This is doing wonders for getting him out in the public eye and helping his name recognition, which will in turn help EuroPac, all on our dime.

This is pure nonsense. All this publicity? He got more publicity when he wasn't running for Senate. He had to cancel a deal with CNBC's Fast Money because he was running. Peter would do a lot better for Europac on the world economic conference circuit getting paid and attracting wealthy clients rather than paying to be on the CT RTC speaking circuit. All the time he's spending on his campaign he's not spending starting up his second mutual fund or PM business. And it's not all on our dime, Peter has kicked in 500k of his own money.

 

[Kotin]

I have confidence in Peter Schiff, otherwise I wouldn't have donated. This is a guy that was really on the fence about running, and now that WE encouraged him to run and he's now in the thick of it, there are some that want to abandon him!? He's already put his money where his mouth is, now its our turn.

This!

 

[Daamien]

Many of you are extremely hypocritical for using this thread to complain money bomb requests on the general forum, about the onset of donor fatigue, about allegations of a lack of in-state grassroots supporters (take a wild guess where I'm from), and how you think that Peter doesn't have a chance in the primary or general election. Were threads regarding money bombs such as Rand's recent ones or even Ron's in 2007 and 2008 hijacked this way? No. Did you complain about these things then? No. If you want to complain, then create a separate thread. The derailing of this thread is very immature.

If you can't contribute to the campaign with a monetary donation, then please consider contributing some of your time by making phone calls to Connecticut voters on the Schiff for Senate site:
http://wildfire.schiffforsenate.com/

Thanks for the enthusiasm. I hope the May 1st money bomb is a success and will be giving $100!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Dude this is Peter Schiff we are talking about here.. If anyone can do it it is peter. And he says he can win.. I believe him, he doesn't bullshit.

True enough. I hope he's right.

you're already giving up for a race that's in August? are you serious?

Nope, not giving up, and I've given money to Schiff, all I'm saying is be realistic.

Even if he wins the primary challenge he's running 20 points behind Blumenthal in a overwhelmingly liberal, democrat state.

Look, I not trying to dampen enthusiasm here, what I'm trying to do is one of the hardest things to do, temper enthusiasm without quenching it.

There was an abundance of enthusiasm in the run up to the NH primaries in 2008. I know, I was part of that. Polls would come out that showed RP in the 8 percent range and they would be shouted down as biased, unreliable, and not truly representative of the voting public. Turns out those polls were just about dead nuts on.

Everything we do as "small government" people is based on a realistic assessment of the world situation, financial situation or political situation, unclouded by "wish it were so" desires. The same exact position should be taken in races that "our" people are running in.

It should also be realistic to recognize that the freedom movement is not a bottomless well of funding, come back to it too many times and sooner or later that well will be dry, most likely at the time you need it most.

 

[pacelli]

If you want to complain, then create a separate thread. The derailing of this thread is very immature.

I'd invite anyone who is interested in complaining as a problem-solving method to plan ahead for 2012 to join me in this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=241786

As long as your complaints and grievances are also submitted with your ideas/solutions to resolve the issues, its fair game. It is not a vent thread, it is a planning thread for 2012. Thank you.

 

[Kotin]

/Double post

 

[Kotin]

True enough. I hope he's right.



Nope, not giving up, and I've given money to Schiff, all I'm saying is be realistic.

Even if he wins the primary challenge he's running 20 points behind Blumenthal in a overwhelmingly liberal, democrat state.

Look, I not trying to dampen enthusiasm here, what I'm trying to do is one of the hardest things to do, temper enthusiasm without quenching it.

There was an abundance of enthusiasm in the run up to the NH primaries in 2008. I know, I was part of that. Polls would come out that showed RP in the 8 percent range and they would be shouted down as biased, unreliable, and not truly representative of the voting public. Turns out those polls were just about dead nuts on.

Everything we do as "small government" people is based on a realistic assessment of the world situation, financial situation or political situation, unclouded by "wish it were so" desires. The same exact position should be taken in races that "our" people are running in.

It should also be realistic to recognize that the freedom movement is not a bottomless well of funding, come back to it too many times and sooner or later that well will be dry, most likely at the time you need it most.

I understand and am in a similar boat..

But when I see this man speak I cannot help but believe him when he says if he can get his message out he can win..


But what i have been thinking is we need to focus on spreading out our fundraising. Especially in the case of peter.. Remember, he has an huge fan base on YouTube.. Like 20,000, I am willing to bet that many of them are outside our movement .. We need to tap those untapped donors..

We need more YouTube videos for one thing.. During 2008 we had literally 10's or 100's of different videos for single money bombs..

We need to explore new avenues in raising money.. We created the money bomb, I know we can jump this hurdle..

 

[DjLoTi]

You guys are getting sucked into your own drama. I only read the first 40 posts but...

I'm just sayin'

BTW Schiff is the man and even though I got robbed $2,500 yesterday, I'll donate $5. Yes there are witnesses and I know who did it (a 'friend') and let me say... I'm nailing his ass to the coffin. I'm charging him with every thing I can, like 3 to 4 felonies and a class A mis.

I wish I could just ask for money to help me but unfortunately nobody likes charity in this world. It would be a miracle if just 1 person could donate me something like the max you can donate to a politician. But I never ask for a handout, either. (not that i wouldn't take it =P) =[ !

 

[Young Paleocon]

All I have to say regarding Schiff's chances against Blumenthal in the general is imagine the debate one on one between the two broadcast across Connecticut and the country.....Just fuckin imagine....

 

[TCE]

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?cycle=2010&id=CTS2

According to this, Schiff threw in $550,000 of his own money. He had $1 million on hand as of the March report date. How did he burn $1 million and not go up but 5% in the polls? He had more than Rand as of that date and has done virtually nothing with it. If what he is saying is true, he has spent almost $3 million and hasn't cracked 11% in the Republican Primary. How much is it going to take? It's looking like $8 million minimum. Then we have the General.

What could we do with that much money? A lot. We could fund so many liberty candidates it's insane. Think what Gunny could do with just $50,000, he could win his race right there. What about a few hundred thousand to B.J. Lawson? Hostettler? Who is out of money as well.

I did not derail this thread, now that it is on this topic, this is now on topic. There is a reason some of us don't go to the Schiff forum and don't post on Schiff stuff in the General Politics forum.

I support everyone making their own decisions, I just don't want anyone to be duped into thinking Schiff is viable when he clearly isn't.

 

[TCE]

All I have to say regarding Schiff's chances against Blumenthal in the general is imagine the debate one on one between the two broadcast across Connecticut and the country.....Just fuckin imagine....

Because everyone will be paying attention to a Senate Election in Connecticut that shows one candidate up 20 points. He still has to come from 20-30 points down in the Primary.

 

[Anti Federalist]

We need to explore new avenues in raising money.. We created the money bomb, I know we can jump this hurdle..

Couldn't agree more.

As much fun as the "bombs" were/are as a fundraising and more importantly as a means to raise media awareness, when the establishment latches on to them and they are as common as "pig tracks" as Pacelli already noted, then yes, it's time to come up with something new.

Especially when we flood the field with multitudinous money bombs as well.

I know we can come up with something new, like you said, we invented the fool things, along with the tea parties, fundraising blimps, using online meetups and social networking sites, we forged the way in all of those.

 

[low preference guy]

Schiff went up. He was 4% and now he is 9%.

It's not sound to compare Rand's with Peter's expenditures, because media buys in Connecticut are much more expensive.

Some of the money Schiff spent were advance buys for upcoming ads.

 

[Daamien]

Correct. As he states in the video, there are new radio and TV ads that he has paid stations to run soon.

 

[GoatsGoneWild]

Outside of Ron Paul himself, Peter Schiff is probably the best liberty candidate and mouthpiece for libertarian ideals there is. I support Rand and have have donated repeatedly to his campaign, but I have more respect for Schiff's candor.

A lot of people have been critical of Schiff's foreign policy positions, but his views are no more "neo-connish" than Rand's are. Frankly, I think Schiff is so focused on economic issues that he might not be well versed on issues such as blowback and non-intervention. Notice that foreign policy only comes up in RTC meetings when Schiff is asked about it. Even then, Schiff ties foreign affairs to our economic well-being.

Rand has been successful in gaining mainstream support by toning down his rhetoric. Schiff might not have Rand's polling numbers but he is visibly winning over Republicans in these RTC meetings and is doing so without resorting to playing politics.

I think it is a terrible shame that so many people are ignoring Schiff's campaign efforts. After Ron Paul, he is the best person to have in the US Senate. Perhaps if more people here watched the videos of the RTC meetings, their opinions would change.

 

[Young Paleocon]

Because everyone will be paying attention to a Senate Election in Connecticut that shows one candidate up 20 points. He still has to come from 20-30 points down in the Primary.

First of all I think your sarcasm is unwarranted, secondly my remark was not made out of any hostility yet your responses are openly hostile to Peter's race. I understand you think he's not viable, but a lot can happen between now and August/November both in regard to the country and the campaign.

 

[low preference guy]

Goats, some people already made up their minds that Schiff has no hope no matter what evidence you show them. There is also a group that resents that he is rich. However, I believe the naysayers are the minority.

 

[TCE]

First of all I think your sarcasm is unwarranted, secondly my remark was not made out of any hostility yet your responses are openly hostile to Peter's race. I understand you think he's not viable, but a lot can happen between now and August/November both in regard to the country and the campaign.

Agreed, I was on a roll, so I went with it, nothing directed at you personally. We shall see in August.

It is at this point that this should probably go to HT.