Peter Schiff considering Senate run in 2010!

[ShannonOBrien]

At first I thought Peter running for senate was a bad idea. But then I thought about it a little more. I think we should think realistically about this. (I am speaking to those who believe the government can be changed peacefully. The anarchists here think differently. That's fine. No need to respond, I'm not going to change my mind just as much as you're not going to change yours.) Most of us here are in the infant stage when it comes to changing our country for the better and creating a successful movement. But you know, if you put it in perspective, we are doing better and better all the time. There's just none of that instant gratification. The numbers of people signed up as precinct leaders on C4L is still growing every day. I was not expecting that. It seems like more and more often we see posts about people getting RP republicans elected into the party. If he ran, we should be prepared for him to lose but that doesn't mean he shouldn't do it at all. It will be a very useful learning experience for all of us. We are just taking baby steps and seeing what works and doesn't work. Be patient. Keep going.

 

[alaric]

That too! Sabrin failed so epically that I forgot about him completely. And I live in NJ!!!

Sabrin failed BECAUSE of NJ! This commie pisspoor 'state' is impossible for real candidates. Only parts of NW jersey elect anyone decent.

 

[alaric]

so with all these comments about how he couldn't win...what are you all here for if you don't want to support liberty minded individuals for public offices?

+1776

 

[alaric]

If a man that used to wear feather boas & beat the crap out of wrestlers could become
a governor then a man that predicted the financial collapse 3 years ago can become
a senator.

excellent point!

 

[MRoCkEd]

Sabrin failed BECAUSE of NJ! This commie pisspoor 'state' is impossible for real candidates. Only parts of NW jersey elect anyone decent.

As if CT (Lieberman, Dodd) is any better...

 

[Jeremy]

As if CT (Lieberman, Dodd) is any better...

I'd like to see how the media would respond to Schiff running though. I mean they DO acknowledge that he predicted this all

 

[tajitj]

They are setting this up well.

Twitter account set up.
http://twitter.com/schiff2010

Youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/schiff2010

 

[Captain America]

You're pathetic if you think we can achieve freedom through the State. Not to mention quite idiotic.



Last time I checked history INDIVIDUALS brought about social change, not government.

And why the fuck are you talking about gaining power!?! You're just like them if all you want to do is use the State to use violence to dominate others.

I'm not saying he definitely won't win (although you're delusional if you think he will) but I AM saying it'll be a waste of his time and your money. He'll accomplish nothing as a parasitic politician, and all the while the State will grow bigger and bigger, until it has consumed the last of our liberties.

The State doesn't shrink itself. Ever.

Your a silly person aren't you. Yes individuals bring "change" as you put it by electing a individual to some position of power. Power meaning a elected office.

Anarcho - Capitalism is the way to go but we need a small government. Peter and any other liberty minded people need to be in those positions.

 

[RevolutionSD]

Keep dreamin bud..keeping dreaming.

Schiff has a much better chance getting elected into the senate than us abandoning government...

I mean really....

And what exactly would Schiff accomplish? Do you really think Schiff can shrink government, despite hundreds of years of failed attempts by others working "within the system" with that goal?

I think Schiff is better off working in the free market, and promoting the idea of using gold and silver as currency.

 

[dude58677]

"I would only be one percent of the Senate, so what can I actually do?" Peter Schiff

Fillibuster the IRS.

 

[Chase]

Schiff is very good at imposing his voice and explaining government insanity in the 30-second and 2-minute soundbyte world. He would be excellent at stirring up a ruckus about the country's financial problems.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Brassmouth is largely correct about Schiff not being electable for Senate, but for the wrong reasons. He thinks our kind of candidate can't win unconditionally, while I think where conditions are right they can, but the movement has ignored looking for those situations. What most politicans do in seeking office is to look for the open or clearly vulnerable seat, and run there. They only run where they can raise at least the mininum funds that actual winners have historically raised for the position they are seeking (e.g. for a house seat that's at least $400k, a senate seat at least $2 million).

The pros run for the party nomination the district or state actually trends towards (Republican in GOP areas, Democrat in a Democratic leaning area/state), or at least look for a 50-50 swing district. They wait for a winnable nomination situation to open up, instead of trying to swim uphill against an incumbent party machine. They should have a sizable mass base of support that will come out to vote for him/her, even for frivolous or irrational reasons. These are among several basic considerations needed to be thought out beforehand, before setting out to expend enormous amounts of time and energy in running.

Lawson, Conway and others lost because they ran a typical third party type campaign that disregards the basic factors above, and seeks to win over a basically hostile district they have no real base in, on token funds and on a wing and a prayer. Sabrin had some of the elements for a victory (was able to raise real money, and being in a swing state), but had no base vote and was never in a position to win the GOP nomination. Folks, just having a great candidate is NOT ENOUGH. Schiff should not run against an entrenched Democratic incumbent Senator, he should instead run for Congress to replace a retiring Republican in a GOP district, and raise about a half million or more to do so. If he selects the former course, he will almost certainly lose.

 

[tajitj]

A local Conneticut columnist is taking notice of Peters possible run.

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/life...uld-face-serious-challenge-in-re-election-bid

"Outside shot
Schiff, on the other hand, is a dark horse, but would appear to have the background in the one area that could prove to be Dodd’s Achilles’ heel — Schiff’s an expert on the nation’s financial markets. Dodd, of course, is the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and at the forefront of the financial meltdown.
An Austrian school economist, Schiff is frequently seen as a guest commentator on CNBC, Fox News, CNN and Bloomberg Television, and just as frequently quoted in major financial publications. He supposedly predicted the economic crisis we’re now facing, and served as economic advisor to Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul during the 2008 GOP primaries....."

 

[itshappening]

does anyone else think this is actually a great opportunity..... ?

i wonder if the people would elect him if he could get the Republican nom and it doesn't sound like there's many "heavyweights" to take on Dodd

 

[MRoCkEd]

i'd campaign for him!

 

[Austin]

I'd definitely consider vacationing in CT for a week or so to do some heavy campaigning for him, ala Ron Paul's Christmas Vacation.

3rd smallest state
29th in population total
4th in population density

 

[dr. hfn]

he could def win!

 

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[RevolutionSD]

No one has explained to me what exactly Schiff could accomplish working in the moral cesspool of the U.S. Senate. RP has been in congress for decades, yet, he has done little to nothing to change the direction of government.

Government itself is the problem. Almost everyone who wants to work for this criminal organization is an authoritarian sociopath. I greatly admire and respect Peter Schiff, but I honestly don't think it would help the cause of liberty to get him into government. In fact, it just again legitimizes the system, and ultimately you can't beat them at their own game (using violence, theft, and lies), so it may make things worse for us.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Brassmouth is largely correct about Schiff not being electable for Senate, but for the wrong reasons. He thinks our kind of candidate can't win unconditionally, while I think where conditions are right they can, but the movement has ignored looking for those situations. What most politicans do in seeking office is to look for the open or clearly vulnerable seat, and run there. They only run where they can raise at least the mininum funds that actual winners have historically raised for the position they are seeking (e.g. for a house seat that's at least $400k, a senate seat at least $2 million).

The pros run for the party nomination the district or state actually trends towards (Republican in GOP areas, Democrat in a Democratic leaning area/state), or at least look for a 50-50 swing district. They wait for a winnable nomination situation to open up, instead of trying to swim uphill against an incumbent party machine. They should have a sizable mass base of support that will come out to vote for him/her, even for frivolous or irrational reasons. These are among several basic considerations needed to be thought out beforehand, before setting out to expend enormous amounts of time and energy in running.

Lawson, Conway and others lost because they ran a typical third party type campaign that disregards the basic factors above, and seeks to win over a basically hostile district they have no real base in, on token funds and on a wing and a prayer. Sabrin had some of the elements for a victory (was able to raise real money, and being in a swing state), but had no base vote and was never in a position to win the GOP nomination. Folks, just having a great candidate is NOT ENOUGH. Schiff should not run against an entrenched Democratic incumbent Senator, he should instead run for Congress to replace a retiring Republican in a GOP district, and raise about a half million or more to do so. If he selects the former course, he will almost certainly lose.

John, while we disagree about a lot, I agree with you on this. While I would support Schiff for Senate, I'd much rather he run for Congress. We have an uphill battle regardless of the race in which a candidate of our condition runs, so it's foolish to reach for the stars when we can much for effectively gain power in smaller doses. Schiff for Congress!