Peter Schiff Admits to Losing Millions in Gold's Decline

The price of silver will not eclipse that price level again for years perhaps decades.

The price of silver has ALREADY been down for years. Once reality sets in for this massive sell-off of paper, silver will go up significantly. I hate to be a hyper and use the word "skyrocket", but I think it will make a large increase in the next year. Try to go to your local coin shop and see if you can find silver. It's a rarity right now, which means its value is bound to shoot up. With the inflation of the money supply, there's just no question about it. Silver cannot stay at these low prices for long.
 
And you know this how?

Anyway, I think most people buying gold and silver are buying it to HOLD, for years and even decades.

Peter has never advocated short term buying and trading gold and silver.[
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thats like the 5th time that has been stated in this thread. lol
 
He has been wrong on the miners so far. He has been and was dead right on gold and the collapse of the economy. Remember, the real crash he has been calling for has not yet happened.

He has been wrong, but he has been more right than most other people you see on TV. Why pick on him?

He has always been calling for a crash- no matter what the economy does. But bear in mind that he is selling products he says should do well if things do collapse- so he has in interest in predicting that. The more nervous people are, the more they will buy what he is selling. He did publicly back off his prediction of hyperinflation. Some of his other predictions he sort of left slide without updating them. Some people have rose colored glasses- only seeing good things- I think he has dark colored glasses seeing only bad. Publicly at least.

He is worth some $70 million so losing a couple million on paper won't hurt him too much. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/wall-street/peter-schiff-net-worth/ Pessimism has worked very well for him.
 
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Um...no. Mike Norman actually backs up his points by evidence. Schiff doesn't. He just goes on anti-American rants. Plus, Norman is a professional economist. Schiff owns a BROKERAGE firm, not an investment firm or economic research firm.

The same Mike Norman who laughed at Peter Schiff for saying home prices would fall in 2008?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60CLQse27p8
 
The same Mike Norman who laughed at Peter Schiff for saying home prices would fall in 2008?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60CLQse27p8

I love how Schiffbots use that as a cover for the fact that Schiff never made a profit out of that prediction and that he's been wrong on pretty much everything else. The guy knows absolutely nothing about economics, and he loses credibility every time he releases a new youtube video defending gold or going on moronic rants about how the government inflation numbers are 'cooked'.

Oh, LMAO at the fool who gave me negative reputation because I got 'powned lol'.
 
He has always been calling for a crash- no matter what the economy does. But bear in mind that he is selling products he says should do well if things do collapse- so he has in interest in predicting that. The more nervous people are, the more they will buy what he is selling. He did publicly back off his prediction of hyperinflation. Some of his other predictions he sort of left slide without updating them. Some people have rose colored glasses- only seeing good things- I think he has dark colored glasses seeing only bad. Publicly at least.

He is worth some $70 million so losing a couple million on paper won't hurt him too much. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/wall-street/peter-schiff-net-worth/ Pessimism has worked very well for him.

Oh please, he's just making money off his followers from books and other stuff. His calls are routinely terrible and has a ridiculous view on reality.
 
He did publicly back off his prediction of hyperinflation

Got a source on that?

Here is an interview from 1-2 months ago him "doubling down" on his inflation thesis. Lauren Lyster didn't a great job holding Schiff's feet to the fire here:

 
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True price discovery will never happen until trading metals on paper is destroyed. The resulting volatility from that won't calm down then until the Petrodollar is destroyed.
 
It's true, if we 1,000 nukes dropped on us we probably won't have hyperinflation.

But it is the direction in which we are currently headed.

I think we have it. I don't think there is a way to avoid it.
 
He has always been calling for a crash- no matter what the economy does. But bear in mind that he is selling products he says should do well if things do collapse- so he has in interest in predicting that. The more nervous people are, the more they will buy what he is selling. He did publicly back off his prediction of hyperinflation. Some of his other predictions he sort of left slide without updating them. Some people have rose colored glasses- only seeing good things- I think he has dark colored glasses seeing only bad. Publicly at least.

He is worth some $70 million so losing a couple million on paper won't hurt him too much. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/wall-street/peter-schiff-net-worth/ Pessimism has worked very well for him.

Well I have only known about him since just before 2008. So as far wall I he could sell is doom. Even from clips of him back in 2002 he is calling the housing bubble. He was right then as well to promote doom.
 
Sure. Thanks for asking.

http://silverdoctors.com/peter-schiff-backpedals-on-hyperinflation-call/

Says hyperinflation would be a "worst case scenario" but adds "but I never say that we're going to have it for sure". First roughly three minutes.

Peter Schiff said:
While I often talk about the possibility of hyper inflation, I have always said that it would be a worse-case scenario that would play out over many years. The fact that it did not appear in the first year of the economic crash (2008) does not invalidate my position. I have always maintained that this worst-case scenario will likely be avoided by what will ultimately be a dramatic shift in policy once our leaders come to their senses. However, until then the dollar will likely lose a substantial portion of its value.

Second, I never said that the dollar would go to zero, either in 2008 or any year thereafter. I have said that in the event of hyper inflation the dollar's value would approach zero. My actual forecast in my book "Crash Proof" was that the Dollar Index would fall to 40 (currently about 85), with a realistic worst case scenario, assuming very high but not hyper inflation, of 20 or lower.

Peter Schiff quote is from January 30, 2009.
http://www.europac.net/commentaries/response_my_critics

I do remember him qualifying that hyperinflation was a worst case scenario on several occasions back around 2008, although I'm not sure he did so every single time.
 
I love how Schiffbots use that as a cover for the fact that Schiff never made a profit out of that prediction and that he's been wrong on pretty much everything else. The guy knows absolutely nothing about economics, and he loses credibility every time he releases a new youtube video defending gold or going on moronic rants about how the government inflation numbers are 'cooked'.

Oh, LMAO at the fool who gave me negative reputation because I got 'powned lol'.
I haven't been following this thread, so excuse me if this has already been covered. RP is quite heavily invested in PMs and mining stocks. Yet he isn't losing money.

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On 20 August 2011, for example, in an article entitled Candidate of Gloom and Doom, Barron’s stated:
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Say this for him: Ron Paul puts his money where his mouth is. Over the past 16 years, the dollar gloom-and-doom prophet has invested heavily in gold-mining stocks. It’s his hedge against what the Texas Republican congressman and perennial presidential candidate calls "The Great Inflation," which he has long preached is inevitable, given the profligacy of the federal government and the easy monetary policies of the Federal Reserve.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]In all, Ron Paul’s portfolio amounts to a super bearish bet against the U.S. economy. … Paul’s investment strategy is a financial planner’s nightmare. Most pros say that gold-mining stocks should be a small part of a diverse portfolio because the shares tend to outperform in bull markets but underperform in bear markets. Mining stocks, for example, were among the most dismal performers in 2008.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On 21 December 2011, The Wall Street Journal joined the fray. In an article entitled The Ron Paul Portfolio, it reported[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul marches to his own drummer in politics – and in his investment portfolio, too. … We’ve looked at hundreds of the annual financial-disclosure forms in which the members of Congress reveal their assets and trades – and we’ve never seen a more unorthodox portfolio than Ron Paul’s. … Rep. Paul’s portfolio is valued between $2.44 million and $5.46 million. (Congressional disclosures are given in ranges, not precise amounts.) … But Ron Paul’s portfolio isn’t merely different. It’s shockingly different.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Figure 2 (next page) shows that real estate comprises approximately one-fifth of Paul’s portfolio, and cash another ca. 15%. He owns no bonds or bond funds, and effectively no managed (what Americans often call "mutual") funds: these constitute a miniscule 0.1% of the portfolio. Moreover, these managed funds are all "short;" that is, the more American stocks fall, the greater are these funds’ returns. Indeed, one is a "double inverse" fund: on a daily basis, it rises twice as much as its stock benchmark falls. It’s important to emphasise that Paul owns no diversified mutual, index or other equity fund: he holds, in other words, no broadly-diversified basket of American or other stocks. Instead, the shares of gold and silver mining companies comprise two-thirds – fully 64% – of his portfolio. Paul owns no shares of world-leading technology firms like Apple; no shares of consumer staples such as Procter & Gamble; no shares of industrial conglomerates like General Electric; and no "too big to fail, too well-connected to gaol" banks such as Bank of America. Paul doesn’t own the stock of any major company at all – except precious-metals stocks like Barrick Gold, Goldcorp and Newmont Mining.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Paul also owns shares of 23 other mining companies – many of them smaller, Canadian "juniors" whose stocks – according to The Wall Street Journal – are "highly risky." In its words, "ten of these stocks have total market valuations of less than $500 million, a common definition of a "microcap" stock. Mr. Paul has between $100,010 and $326,000 (roughly 5% of his assets) invested in these tiny, extremely volatile stocks." It added:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Rep. Paul appears to be a strict buy-and-hold investor who rarely trades; he has held many of his mining stocks since at least 2002. But, as gold and silver prices have fallen sharply since September, precious-metals equities have also taken a pounding, with many dropping 20% or more. That exposes the risk in making a big bet on one narrow sector.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Figure 2: Ron Paul’s Investment Portfolio (2011)
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]At the Journal’s request, William Bernstein, an investment manager at Efficient Portfolio Advisors in Eastford, CT, reviewed Paul’s portfolio. Bernstein says he "has never seen such an extreme bet on economic catastrophe. This portfolio is a half-step away from a cellar-full of canned goods and nine-millimetre rounds." According to Bernstein, many "possible doomsday scenarios" menace the U.S. economy and financial markets. Yet, he says without corroboration, Paul’s portfolio protects against only one of them: the very high inflation that would accompany the collapse of the dollar. In Bernstein’s opinion, if deflation (which he presumably defines in conventional terms, that is, as a general decrease in the prices of most goods and services) occurs instead, then "this portfolio is at great risk" because it contains no bonds and is so highly exposed to gold. The Journal concluded:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Running an investment portfolio that protects against only one bad outcome is like living in California and buying homeowner’s insurance that protects only against earthquakes, says Mr Bernstein. You also want protection against fire and wind and theft and the full range of risks that houses are prone to. Likewise, he adds, investors should hold a broad mix of assets that will hold up under a variety of good and bad scenarios.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A spokeswoman for Rep. Paul didn’t respond to requests for comment. But you can say this for Ron Paul: In investing, as in politics, he has the courage of his convictions.[/FONT]

There isn’t much doubt that Rep. Paul’s portfolio has outperformed the U.S. stock market as a whole. Ten years ago, the NYSE Arca Gold BUGS Index, a basket of stocks in mining companies, was at $65; this week, it’s at $522. That’s roughly a 23% average annual return; over the past decade, by contrast, the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, counting dividends, has returned some 2.9% annually
(italics added).[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]On 5 January 2012, in a follow-up article entitled How Weird Is Ron Paul’s Portfolio?, The Journal noted that "Paul’s supporters protested, in their comments [about the article on 21 December], that his portfolio has already been vindicated by its performance." It conceded a vital fact that its first article somehow forgot even to mention:
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]But it conceded this point very grudgingly:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Yet we would argue that performance alone can’t tell you whether an investment approach is sensible or not. After all, over the 10 years ended Dec. 31, 1999, Internet stocks far outperformed most other investments. [It doesn’t deign to list the Internet stocks that existed in 1989.] That didn’t ensure that they would continue to do so in the years to come, and it certainly didn’t mean that it was prudent to put all or most of your money into stocks like Pets.com or eToys Inc.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The same has been true of countless other assets at many other times and places. In each of those cases, just as those assets were cresting in price, the people who owned them declared that their past performance proved that they were "right" to make huge bets on them. History proved them wrong. In short, investing isn’t just about maximizing your upside if you turn out to be right. It’s also about minimising your downside if you turn out to be wrong. Putting two-thirds of all your assets into one concentrated bet is a great idea if the future plays out just as you imagine it will – but a rotten idea if the future turns out to be full of surprises.[/FONT]
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full article here.
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Sure. Thanks for asking.
Says hyperinflation would be a "worst case scenario" but adds "but I never say that we're going to have it for sure". First roughly three minutes.

That is the same interview with Lauren Lyster that I posted. He explicitly says in the interview that he is doubling down on his forecast of high inflation. Schiff never said in that clip that he no longer believed Hyper-Inflation is not a possible outcome.

For the better part of the decade Schiff has been calling for a dollar collapse, Bond market implosion, double-digit interest rates, run-away inflation, Asia decouple from the US, DOW/Gold 1:1, foreign equities to outpace US equities.

Proof he hasn't wavered one bit. Articles from the last several months. On major economic websites non-the less not some doomer libertarian blogs.

Forbes: Peter Schiff: Market-Crushing Treasury Collapse To Hit Around 2013 (3/27/2012)


Market Watch: Gold at $5,000 and beyond: Peter Schiff sticks to his call (02/13/13)


Yahoo! Finance: Peter Schiff Doubles Down on Inflation Prediction (01/10/13)
 
That is the same interview with Lauren Lyster that I posted. He explicitly says in the interview that he is doubling down on his forecast of high inflation. Schiff never said in that clip that he no longer believed Hyper-Inflation is not a possible outcome.

For the better part of the decade Schiff has been calling for a dollar collapse, Bond market implosion, double-digit interest rates, run-away inflation, Asia decouple from the US, DOW/Gold 1:1, foreign equities to outpace US equities.

Proof he hasn't wavered one bit. Articles from the last several months. On major economic websites non-the less not some doomer libertarian blogs.

Forbes: Peter Schiff: Market-Crushing Treasury Collapse To Hit Around 2013 (3/27/2012)


Market Watch: Gold at $5,000 and beyond: Peter Schiff sticks to his call (02/13/13)


Yahoo! Finance: Peter Schiff Doubles Down on Inflation Prediction (01/10/13)

She must have changed clothes during the interview then. In one she is wearing blue and the other red.
 
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She must have changed clothes during the interview then. In one she is wearing blue and the other red.

The one where he "Doubled-Down" was the more recent one. She moved from RT to Yahoo! Finance and has had Peter Schiff on that one time and put his feet to the fire on his inflation thesis.
 
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