People angry at Doug Wead?

B

Butchie

Member
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
1,027
With all the anger/speculation going around I've seen some knocking Doug Wead. Unless I missed something he seems like he's been a great spokesman for the campaign. I realize he may have just been a hired gun but even so I thought he was a great speaker everytime they put the mic in front of him, why are people bashing him, he did his job?
 
My feeling since he at AMES said the 'best thing about electing Ron is you get Rand too...' was that while he supported Ron he really found Rand more to his taste. His background is with conventional conservative evangelical campaigns. He seemed very ready to talk about the future of the movement being in 'the son also rises' etc while our grass roots were dominating conventions, etc. He just didn't seem as focused on Ron as Rand to me, and never seemed to quite 'get' Ron in my view. That is not to say he is an evil guy, and there were specific points where he was very helpful, but I wish we had seen more of Gary Howard.
 
Butchie said:
With all the anger/speculation going around I've seen some knocking Doug Wead. Unless I missed something he seems like he's been a great spokesman for the campaign. I realize he may have just been a hired gun but even so I thought he was a great speaker everytime they put the mic in front of him, why are people bashing him, he did his job?
Click to expand...

I think that some people got upset, when he wrote a blog post that was titled something like, "Rick Santorum Supporters Attack Ron Paul Supporters" in just the last 3-weeks, and tried to blame what happened in Louisiana all on Rick Santorum supporters, and excusing Mitt Romney from everything.
" And today we are getting a clearer pictures of what happened. This time, it is not the Romney people, indeed they were trying to make peace, understanding that breaking bones is not the way to unite the party. It was local and national Rick Santorum people behind the chaos.

The Santorum people, running the Louisiana State GOP Convention, hired off duty police to do their bidding. Knowing they were outnumbered by duly elected Ron Paul delegates, who had won their elections at precinct, county and district conventions, and knowing that they would immediately be voted out of their positions, the Santorum people decided to manhandle the state convention and make a win with brute force.

The Santorum team rationalized this because of their 49% primary win last March 24. Didn’t this give them the right to run the convention? They decided it did."

That seemed speculation, other than Rick Santorum winning Louisiana, to many people and just trying to defend/excuse Mitt Romney from anything that happened. He didn't name one person, Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney supporter, that I'm aware of that was actually "behind the chaos".
So, you have the official campaign helping Romney win in states like Michigan. You have the official campaign never trying to beat Romney in the first one-on-one state that was given to them. You have the official campaign never attacking just Romney.
Then, when Ron Paul supporters get attacked/assaulted/arrested in Louisiana, you have an official campaign staffer come out and try to use that as a way to blame another candidate/his supporters, instead of the GOP at large.

Now, you have Rand Paul going on national tv lying in his endorsement, and dragging Ron Paul supporters into it by mentioning things like "my dad's supporters" and "issues important to them". At this point, don't expect some Ron Paul supporters to be very happy with any "campaign official", because they should all be viewed with skepticism, and as using a movement to get paychecks at this point.
Especially considering the official campaign has now used its official webpage in an effort to defend Rand Paul's endorsement twice so far.

Oh, and let's not forget the interview Doug Wead gave months ago, when asked if this was really about "Rand" (something along those lines), his answer was pretty much, "Yea".
 
Last edited:
Some of the griping towards Doug is not at Doug Wead, but another Doug who is a staffer for Rand.
 
Yeah, he was relatively close with their family. Not Lee Atwater close, though. More in the context of historical advice. 'If I do this, what will history say?', or 'has ___ ever happened?'
 
Last edited:
That makes him not the best choice for "special advisor" to the campaign then....IMO.
 
He himself has said in many interviews that he used to be an ex Bush supporter who learned from Ron Paul and came to the message of liberty.
It has happened with many of the Ron Paul people. Many have been Bush or Obama supporters, are we going to discredit all of them too as fakers?
Doug Wead is a good guy, do not hate him for being what most on here have been themselves.
 
I rather have Doug on our side than on the enemy's side. We would've been toast a long time ago if we didn't have Doug be our spokesman at the beginning. I don't see Doug do anything wrong that is a detriment. He might get the facts wrong from time to time, but we all do. We always don't know all the facts. Like right now... we are just speculating stuff for the last week about Rand and etc etc.

Yeah... bashing Carol is a new low.
 
People are angry with everyone and everything now. People are angry with eachother. We need to stop the fracturing. Each of us needs to take a deep breath and think of how one can divert one's energy towards more constructive efforts. Even if it means leaving the political arena and focusing on educational/media/other liberty campaigns (like the Free State Project, writing a blog, or promoting the Mises Institute).
 
Last edited:
coffeewithchess said:
I think that some people got upset, when he wrote a blog post that was titled something like, "Rick Santorum Supporters Attack Ron Paul Supporters" in just the last 3-weeks, and tried to blame what happened in Louisiana all on Rick Santorum supporters, and excusing Mitt Romney from everything.
" And today we are getting a clearer pictures of what happened. This time, it is not the Romney people, indeed they were trying to make peace, understanding that breaking bones is not the way to unite the party. It was local and national Rick Santorum people behind the chaos.

The Santorum people, running the Louisiana State GOP Convention, hired off duty police to do their bidding. Knowing they were outnumbered by duly elected Ron Paul delegates, who had won their elections at precinct, county and district conventions, and knowing that they would immediately be voted out of their positions, the Santorum people decided to manhandle the state convention and make a win with brute force.

The Santorum team rationalized this because of their 49% primary win last March 24. Didn’t this give them the right to run the convention? They decided it did."

That seemed speculation, other than Rick Santorum winning Louisiana, to many people and just trying to defend/excuse Mitt Romney from anything that happened. He didn't name one person, Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney supporter, that I'm aware of that was actually "behind the chaos".
So, you have the official campaign helping Romney win in states like Michigan. You have the official campaign never trying to beat Romney in the first one-on-one state that was given to them. You have the official campaign never attacking just Romney.
Then, when Ron Paul supporters get attacked/assaulted/arrested in Louisiana, you have an official campaign staffer come out and try to use that as a way to blame another candidate/his supporters, instead of the GOP at large.

Now, you have Rand Paul going on national tv lying in his endorsement, and dragging Ron Paul supporters into it by mentioning things like "my dad's supporters" and "issues important to them". At this point, don't expect some Ron Paul supporters to be very happy with any "campaign official", because they should all be viewed with skepticism, and as using a movement to get paychecks at this point.
Especially considering the official campaign has now used its official webpage in an effort to defend Rand Paul's endorsement twice so far.

Oh, and let's not forget the interview Doug Wead gave months ago, when asked if this was really about "Rand" (something along those lines), his answer was pretty much, "Yea".
Click to expand...

in Louisiana, it was supporters of santorum, not romney, that caused the violence.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Occam's Banana
Judge resigns after admitting he thinks all defendants are guilty
Replies
1
Views
183
TheTexan
TheTexan
Occam's Banana
With JD Vance and Elon Musk, suddenly ideas are back in this campaign
Replies
2
Views
4K
Occam's Banana
Occam's Banana
PAF
The Hidden Agenda of Davos
Replies
1
Views
835
PAF
PAF
jct74
Rand approached by RFK Jr. to be VP pick
Replies
1
Views
922
unknown
unknown
jmdrake
Off-duty Cop Killed While Breaking Into Neighbour's House In Atlanta
Replies
2
Views
419
unknown
unknown
Back
Top