Pence’s Priorities: Stopping Marriage Equality Is As Important As Fixing The Economy

[Agorism]

Pence’s Priorities: Stopping Marriage Equality Is As Important As Fixing The Economy

Pence’s Priorities: Stopping Marriage Equality Is As Important As Fixing The Economy

Pence said although economic issues are important for the country right now, its a lack of morality that pains the nation most. Everything that is great about America, he said, could come crashing down because of the lack of values in Washington.

“We will not restore this nation with public policy alone,” he said. “It will require public virtue and that emanates from the traditional institutions of family and religion.”

He continued by shooting down sentiments that moral issues must wait until the failing economic climate passes. Moral issues, he argued, are the bedrock of the American nation.

“To those who say that marriage doesn’t matter, I say, ‘you would not be able to print enough money in 1,000 years to pay for the government you would need if the traditional family continues to collapse.’”

 

[itshappening]

he is trying to revive Bushism, shamelessly. it'll play well in iowa

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Oh yeah. More objective bullshit. Though this is the traditional conservative approach. If you reject this you are not a conservative. So, hopefully some of you-so-called conservatives reflect a bit on what you ascribe your ideology to. Virtue, tradition, etc. huge planks of conservatism.

 

[torchbearer]

He sounds like a Nazi spewing propaganda against the Jews in the 1930's/40's.
"We'd be prosperous if it wasn't for those queers"

 

[Philhelm]

While his implications may be misguided, I do believe that the U.S. suffers from cultural and social decay. I'm not speaking of religion, but simply the civic virtue of the people at present. There's too much ignorance, amorality, and apathy in the U.S.

 

[FrankRep]

Pence said although economic issues are important for the country right now, its a lack of morality that pains the nation most.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

- John Adams

 

[oyarde]

I was wondering when the Adams quote would show up . Who disagrees with Adams ?

 

[torchbearer]

While his implications may be misguided, I do believe that the U.S. suffers from cultural and social decay. I'm not speaking of religion, but simply the civic virtue of the people at present. There's too much ignorance, amorality, and apathy in the U.S.

sociologist have a different take on culture changes, since they have always happened over time.
deviance is the engine of change. otherwise, we'd still be in the dark ages, watching the universe revolve around us.

 

[nate895]

"Marriage equality" is as biased, bogus of a term as I can possibly imagine. When did "hey, let's totally redefine a term that has existed throughout history" become "marriage equality." This whole "gay marriage" debate is stupid on the level of debating the meaning of the word "man" or something. That's what it's about. Freedom doesn't include the right to redefine words for everyone.

Oh yeah. More objective bullshit. Though this is the traditional conservative approach. If you reject this you are not a conservative. So, hopefully some of you-so-called conservatives reflect a bit on what you ascribe your ideology to. Virtue, tradition, etc. huge planks of conservatism.

Virtue and tradition are why I am here.

Go ancient British liberties!!!!

 

[akforme]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

- John Adams

Oh and you have to be a white land owner.

 

[nate895]

sociologist have a different take on culture changes, since they have always happened over time.
deviance is the engine of change. otherwise, we'd still be in the dark ages, watching the universe revolve around us.

You act like there is the monolithic agreement amongst "sociologists." This is another manifestation of modern democratic myth, that there is this monolithic agreement amongst scholars of any variety.

 

[nate895]

Oh and you have to be a white land owner.

Because race and morality have anything to do with each other. Irrelevancies abound in the modern world, I see.

 

[torchbearer]

You act like there is the monolithic agreement amongst "sociologists." This is another manifestation of modern democratic myth, that there is this monolithic agreement amongst scholars of any variety.

um, history is the same no matter how you read it.
cultures change, the people who changed them were deviants.
Think Galileo or Kepler.
Think Jesus.
These men were all deviants of their time and through their actions changed cultures.
Without the deviants, cultures do not change. That is a monolithic consensus, just like gravity is a monolithic consensus.

 

[nate895]

um, history is the same no matter how you read it.
cultures change, the people who changed them were deviants.
Think Galileo or Kepler.
Think Jesus.
These men were all deviants of their time and through their actions changed cultures.
Without the deviants, cultures do not change. That is a monolithic consensus, just like gravity is a monolithic consensus.

The problem is that culture doesn't change as much as you think it does. How are we any different than the Roman empire culturally? There really is nothing new under the sun. We've been debating the same stuff throughout time.

As for Jesus being a "deviant," that is little more than a sophistry, a leading philosophy in modern times.

 

[torchbearer]

The problem is that culture doesn't change as much as you think it does. How are we any different than the Roman empire culturally? There really is nothing new under the sun. We've been debating the same stuff throughout time.

As for Jesus being a "deviant," that is little more than a sophistry, a leading philosophy in modern times.

why did the sanhedrin dislike Jesus so much? Because he was a cultural clone spitting out the tried and true mantras?
if each person born is a cultural clone, culture never changes.
And when I talk of culture, I talk of the macro culture of large societies...
how do they view themselves in the world?
how do they engage each other in interactions?
what are their traditions?
what are their forbiddens?
what are their expectations?
what is their world view?

yes, we are the same monkeys we always were, but many things have changed in how we see the world, which directly impacts how we interact in it.

 

[nate895]

why did the sanhedrin dislike Jesus so much? Because he was a cultural clone spitting out the tried and true mantras?
if each person born is a cultural clone, culture never changes.
And when I talk of culture, I talk of the macro culture of large societies...
how do they view themselves in the world?
how do they engage each other in interactions?
what are their traditions?
what are their forbiddens?
what are their expectations?
what is their world view?

yes, we are the same monkeys we always were, but many things have changed in how we see the world, which directly impacts how we interact in it.

Confronting modern society for false beliefs isn't being "deviant." It is possible that everyone else are the deviants. Because of your false worldview, you look at everything backwards. Those who are immoral throughout time are the deviants. Sadly, that is the vast majority of everyone who has ever lived, and everyone (besides Jesus, of course) is deviant to one degree or another. The difference is recognition of the deviance and reforming according to the Law of God.

Also, in your own worldview, in what way is the acceptance of a lifestyle that is against the propagation of the species (i.e., homosexuality) in anyway progress? You know, homosexuality used to be a normal thing in classical and ancient times (marriage was still recognized as between man and woman to the exclusion of all others, however). It is now completely abnormal. To make it normal against is going backwards.

 

[specsaregood]

So clearly, Mike Pence is gay.

I mean, if history is any indicator....

 

[bunklocoempire]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

- John Adams

Moral and religious people who practice their faith, and who understand our Constitution, also understand that the greatest blessings come from individual responsibility to their fellow man -and not government doing their moral bidding.

Persuasion -not force.

They also understand the danger of government (national) defining morality.

'Think Progress' ain't gonna tell that ^ story ^ . Neither is Pence.



Bunkloco

 

[wormyguy]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

- John Adams

Yay, the second most illibertarian founder after Hamilton.

 

[RedStripe]

Haha conservative jackass exposes himself as a conservative jackass. What a shocker.