PEACE, RPF, PEACE PLEASE

[Jan2017]

Federalist papers argued that liberty was not to be destroyed just because like air it fuels both life and the fire of anarchy -
...

Minarchy is not anarchy

In thinking about this , Federalist Paper 10, written by Madison was sorta arguing to go minimalist on the Federal government idea . . .
trying to sell New York, Rhode Island and others to this idea of a federal government and ratify -
NYC ultimately was the first national capital, with the Senate in Philadelphia.

But this wasn't a done deal . . . some definitely wanted to go rogue - the AntiFederalists and Anti-Administration Party included -
New Yorkers Alexander Hamilton and Jay along with the prolific writer and promoter Virginian James Madison had alot of explaining
of what was coming out of that largely secretive constitutional convention.

Jay's compatriate in France whom made it back to Philly - Ben Franklin - was asked in
the classic description of the results leaving the Constitutional Convention hall in his hometown -
"Mr. Franklin . . . what kind of government do we have, Sir ?"
Ben - "A republic . . . if ya' can keep it."

 

[Ronin Truth]

In thinking about this , Federalist Paper 10, written by Madison was sorta arguing to go minimalist on the Federal government idea . . .
trying to sell New York, Rhode Island and others to this idea of a federal government and ratify -
NYC ultimately was the first national capital, with the Senate in Philadelphia.

But this wasn't a done deal . . . some definitely wanted to go rogue - the AntiFederalists and Anti-Administration Party included -
New Yorkers Alexander Hamilton and Jay along with the prolific writer and promoter Virginian James Madison had alot of explaining
of what was coming out of that largely secretive constitutional convention.

Jay's compatriate in France whom made it back to Philly - Ben Franklin - was asked in
the classic description of the results leaving the Constitutional Convention hall in his hometown -
"Mr. Franklin . . . what kind of government do we have, Sir ?"
Ben - "A republic . . . if ya' can keep it."

What if your (or mine) min is zero?

 

[Jan2017]

What if your (or mine) min is zero?

Fine . . . no government . . . everyone (or sovereign states not ratifying) act on their freewill, human nature, or sometin' -
may or may not lead to anarchy ?

 

[MarcusI]

I have to say I find much more peace now in RPF then three, four weeks ago

 

[Ender]

what is the difference between Anarchy, and Liberty? AF.

have you ever explained that? can you?

There is none.

 

[HVACTech]

There is none.

the distinctions are minor friend. we are on the same team.

and if I can make friends with [MENTION=37818]luctor-et-emergo[/MENTION] over what a real pizza oven is...
then, there is hope you can make friends with AF.

 

[HVACTech]

No, liberty and freedom are well known.

They are despised and hated by most people.

do you get these feelings often? I am pretty sure I saw an ad on the teevee...
that promised to help with that.

is [MENTION=9064]Ender[/MENTION] talking about spoons again?

this goes here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhfFXEMMI4

 

[HVACTech]

And yes, HVAC... AF has explained it many times in his multi-tens-of-thousands of posts.

are we talking about spoons again?
or the obvious threats to Liberty?

are you proposing sir.. that Liberty is a system... and can protect itself?

 

[nikcers]

are we talking about spoons again?
or the obvious threats to Liberty?

are you proposing sir.. that Liberty is a system... and can protect itself?

Are you trying to tell me that liberty isn't free? :o

 

[Ender]

the distinctions are minor friend. we are on the same team.

and if I can make friends with [MENTION=37818]luctor-et-emergo[/MENTION] over what a real pizza oven is...
then, there is hope you can make friends with AF.

I am friends with AF- and the spoon analogy is much closer than most realize.

 

[Bryan]

Are you trying to tell me that liberty isn't free? :o

It is free on its own, the problem is that other people want to take it away from you; so it must be protected.

The question is, how?

 

[HVACTech]

Are you trying to tell me that liberty isn't free? :o

well, I DO think [MENTION=9064]Ender[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1866]AntiFederalist[/MENTION] should not share spoons or even spoon together.
but what business is that of mine?

what I am trying to tell you sir... is that Liberty is a Lady.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

the distinctions are minor friend. we are on the same team.

and if I can make friends with [MENTION=37818]luctor-et-emergo[/MENTION] over what a real pizza oven is...
then, there is hope you can make friends with AF.

Hey, we can all be friends and I'll provide the pizza.

Liberty, then pizza, right ?!

 

[openfire]

what I am trying to tell you sir... is that Liberty is a Lady.

She is indeed.

 

[Ender]

well, I DO think @<u><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=9064" target="_blank">Ender</a></u> and @<u><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1866" target="_blank">AntiFederalist</a></u> should not share spoons or even spoon together.
but what business is that of mine?

what I am trying to tell you sir... is that Liberty is a Lady.

NO.

Liberty is William Wallace.



A bit too much commitment for most.

 

[Jamesiv1]

Hey, we can all be friends and I'll provide the pizza.

Liberty, then pizza, right ?!

ha! I remember that. It was awesome.

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

there are definitely a lot of ppl here trying very hard to make it an inhospitable place.

 

[Jan2017]

what is the difference between Anarchy, and Liberty? AF.

have you ever explained that? can you?

There is none.

look at the Reince Priebus-led RNC . . . there is no Liberty - and yet it is near total Anarchy

 

[Ender]

look at the Reince Priebus-led RNC . . . there is no Liberty - and yet it is near total Anarchy

Sorry- can't be both. If there is anarchy then people are exerting their FREEDOM.