PEACE, RPF, PEACE PLEASE

[CPUd]

Where did they go, if they gave up on Ron/Rand/RPF ?

I know that some were so far to the left they had to go back to Bernie, but the true libertarians, where are they hanging out these days ?

They went to facebook and twitter, got married, kids, jobs, etc.. On debate nights, they would sometimes come visit the debate threads. I was seeing 300+ in the Rand forum on those nights, a lot of them posting that haven't been around since 2012.

 

[DamianTV]

the problem is you and anybody claiming Trump is for Tyranny have absolutely NO proof that it's true...I was one of the biggest haters of Trump, but when I see the entire establishment, talk radio, media, democrats, republicans etc., come out to stop this guy I know he is not a tyrannical man, he is trying to stop the United States from becoming extinct. I really don't see Ted Cruz who just hired Neil Bush, the guy using the same techniques the socialist use as the person I want. Trump is not an authoritarian anymore than Rand Paul is an isolationist. But hey if you want to be on the side of the Mitch McConnels and all the Oligarch's who flew to their private island to strategize on how to thwart the will of the people, then go ahead, it's still a free country for now.

Lets dig into it a little bit better so everyone can really understand what is going on.

The idea of "Conspiracy" means that everyone in power is working in kahootz with everyone else. These people in power are NOT fully agreed on everything. They are at war with each other. But to understand this better, we need to understand which factions of power they represent.

I've explained this before, but I'll say it again. There are three foundations of total control of a population. Violence, which represents the government as a whole. Money, which represents the moneyed interests, Central Banks, etc. Make sure that it is understood that the Central Banks are not a part of their respective countries. Lastly you have Belief. Belief isnt about religion, but about the entire mind of all of the mundanes, conscious thoughts, subconscious, and even unconscious. Belief represents both the Mainstream Media (MSM), and Education (extension of government), and higher education represents the money power.

Trump has constantly been referred to as an outsider. We need to understand better and have a more clear definition of what they mean by "outsider".

Violence (Govt) - OUTSIDER
Money (Banks) - INSIDER
Belief - Needs Subcategorization
- Belief by Govt (Schools) - OUTSIDER
- Belief by Money (College) - INSIDER
- Belief by MSM - INSIDER

The only faction that is truly opposed to Trump is the Government. To nearly everyone else, he appears to be an Insider. He will benefit from Big Business, and this will only make things worse once he has the power to change the laws to benefit the rich, and as always, it will be at the expense of the poor. The only thing that is really happening is that the power is shifting between the Foundations of Societal Control. There are no qualified candidates that truly represent the best interest of the people. For the people to prosper, those three Foundations of Societal Control must all be challenged and have their powers reduced to their proper and minimal levels. That is something that simply will not happen with Trump, but I think many believed could have happened with Ron Paul.

(Its just a point of clarification, Im not disagreeing with your points)

 

[ProBlue33]

They went to facebook and twitter, got married, kids, jobs, etc.. On debate nights, they would sometimes come visit the debate threads. I was seeing 300+ in the Rand forum on those nights, a lot of them posting that haven't been around since 2012.

From another website that was rabidly pro Ron Paul, pretty much at least up to 75% of them have moved on, and it wasn't to Rand either, some gave up, some went to Bernie. And many have gone over to Trump too, with a similar !@#$ the "Establishment" let it burn attitude, the same one we see on RPF by some.
All these delegate take overs that were archived have been pretty much rolled back in the last 4 years, pretty sad.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Did you type "fuck" and have the profanity filter on?

From another website that was rabidly pro Ron Paul, pretty much at least up to 75% of them have moved on, and it wasn't to Rand either, some gave up, some went to Bernie. And many have gone over to Trump too, with a similar !@#$ the "Establishment" let it burn attitude, the same one we see on RPF by some.
All these delegate take overs that were archived have been pretty much rolled back in the last 4 years, pretty sad.

 

[HVACTech]

But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain:

That it has either authorized such a government as we have,

Or has been powerless to prevent it.

In either case, it is unfit to exist.

that's pretty PROFOUND right thar AF!

CLEARLY, the CONstitution itself, is the source code for all of our present day troubles!

query, if someone runs a stop sign.. is it the stop signs fault?

 

[HVACTech]

Yes, like him.



Of course it does. Just like Alexander Hamilton was a statist, and proud of it. What's confusing about that?

nothing. so. Ron Paul and I do NOT belong on RonPaulforums?

 

[HVACTech]

Lets dig into it a little bit better so everyone can really understand what is going on.

The idea of "Conspiracy" means that everyone in power is working in kahootz with everyone else. These people in power are NOT fully agreed on everything. They are at war with each other. But to understand this better, we need to understand which factions of power they represent.

I've explained this before, but I'll say it again. There are three foundations of total control of a population. Violence, which represents the government as a whole. Money, which represents the moneyed interests, Central Banks, etc. Make sure that it is understood that the Central Banks are not a part of their respective countries. Lastly you have Belief. Belief isnt about religion, but about the entire mind of all of the mundanes, conscious thoughts, subconscious, and even unconscious. Belief represents both the Mainstream Media (MSM), and Education (extension of government), and higher education represents the money power.

Trump has constantly been referred to as an outsider. We need to understand better and have a more clear definition of what they mean by "outsider".

Violence (Govt) - OUTSIDER
Money (Banks) - INSIDER
Belief - Needs Subcategorization
- Belief by Govt (Schools) - OUTSIDER
- Belief by Money (College) - INSIDER
- Belief by MSM - INSIDER

The only faction that is truly opposed to Trump is the Government. To nearly everyone else, he appears to be an Insider. He will benefit from Big Business, and this will only make things worse once he has the power to change the laws to benefit the rich, and as always, it will be at the expense of the poor. The only thing that is really happening is that the power is shifting between the Foundations of Societal Control. There are no qualified candidates that truly represent the best interest of the people. For the people to prosper, those three Foundations of Societal Control must all be challenged and have their powers reduced to their proper and minimal levels. That is something that simply will not happen with Trump, but I think many believed could have happened with Ron Paul.

(Its just a point of clarification, Im not disagreeing with your points)

Ron Paul was a statist. get with the program sir!

 

[HVACTech]

We have his entire campaign from the day he started it until now.



Given a choice between Trump being president and the US becoming extinct, I vote for the latter.

well, THAT is certainly a reasonable position. I mean why not?

 

[Anti Federalist]

that's pretty PROFOUND right thar AF!

CLEARLY, the CONstitution itself, is the source code for all of our present day troubles!

query, if someone runs a stop sign.. is it the stop signs fault?

No, but it failed at the task, making someone stop.

That said, I'm not of the idea it was powerless to stop it, especially with the Bill of Rights in place.

I think it has authorized this government, top to bottom, fair and square, legal beagle.

 

[Anti Federalist]

nothing. so. Ron Paul and I do NOT belong on RonPaulforums?

Well, I can't speak to where Ron Paul belongs, but I think you belong in a rubber room.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The whole point of having neg-rep is to use it on posts like those that support tyranny.

Kind of like those, like you, who advocate for the illegal alien overrun of our country?

Given a choice between Trump being president and the US becoming extinct, I vote for the latter.

That was your vote before Trump even starting running.

 

[LibertyEagle]

No, but it failed at the task, making someone stop.

That said, I'm not of the idea it was powerless to stop it, especially with the Bill of Rights in place.

I think it has authorized this government, top to bottom, fair and square, legal beagle.

A piece of paper failed? Hardly. The failure was in the people allowing it to be disregarded.

 

[Mach]

Of course I'm for no state. That's just what I said. At no point did I say or imply otherwise.

We have his entire campaign from the day he started it until now.



Given a choice between Trump being president and the US becoming extinct, I vote for the latter.

So you are for New World Order, you are an Internationalist and like that kind you go around shilling groups and States constantly trying to tear them apart from the inside, that is the only reason you are here.... I see.

 

[Spikender]

I think he's for the No State Order but I see that this will be a new tactic: because someone is for a small or non-existent government, they're now New World Order because clearly they want to tear down what we have so the globalists can move in.

Give me a break.

 

[Mach]

I think he's for the No State Order but I see that this will be a new tactic: because someone is for a small or non-existent government, they're now New World Order because clearly they want to tear down what we have so the globalists can move in.

Give me a break.

He's not for small at all, he's totally for NO borders, period, quit trying to play words (an old tactic) and..... give ME, a break.

 

[openfire]

I've seen a lot of dumb posts by Trump supporters but I feel like this takes the cake. You should win "dumbass of the week" with this post. But there are a couple hours left so there could be some other Trump supporter on these forums who might take that title from you. NEWSFLASH!! Neocons want troops on the ground in Syria too. They have been clammoring for it for years now. Then they want troops in Sudan and Libya because those ISIS terrorists have to be dealt with! I hope you or your family gets sent there since you are all for it.

NEWSFLASH!! This scenario ceased to be a possibility the second Russia arrived in Syria to protect the Syrian regime. They’re not going to use ground troops in a shooting war with Russia to overthrow Assad. That’s what ISIS is for. Try to keep up.

Second, the world knows that ISIS is a Langley product. To overthrow Assad and then install a US puppet government on the pretext of being in Syria to “fight ISIS” is laughable, because it would be obvious to the average peon. If they were willing to lose all credibility and appearance of legitimacy, they would have already done so and they don’t need Trump to do it.

 

[twomp]

NEWSFLASH!! This scenario ceased to be a possibility the second Russia arrived in Syria to protect the Syrian regime. They’re not going to use ground troops in a shooting war with Russia to overthrow Assad. That’s what ISIS is for. Try to keep up.

Second, the world knows that ISIS is a Langley product. To overthrow Assad and then install a US puppet government on the pretext of being in Syria to “fight ISIS” is laughable, because it would be obvious to the average peon. If they were willing to lose all credibility and appearance of legitimacy, they would have already done so and they don’t need Trump to do it.

Doubling down on stupid I see. You speak the same language as the neo-cons. Omg, omg, ISIS has to be stopped. We need to kill them all to save the world!!! Only we can do it. No one else can. The only thing that is even more stupid than that is the fact you now think that we need to send 30,000 troops into Syria to attack the neo-cons. Hahahah Trump supporters. Dumb as rocks....

 

[openfire]

Doubling down on stupid I see. You speak the same language as the neo-cons. Omg, omg, ISIS has to be stopped. We need to kill them all to save the world!!! Only we can do it. No one else can. The only thing that is even more stupid than that is the fact you now think that we need to send 30,000 troops into Syria to attack the neo-cons. Hahahah Trump supporters. Dumb as rocks....

I didn't say that, Trump did. I explained to you why your idiotic theory is, well, idiotic.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Doubling down on stupid I see. You speak the same language as the neo-cons. Omg, omg, ISIS has to be stopped. We need to kill them all to save the world!!! Only we can do it. No one else can. The only thing that is even more stupid than that is the fact you now think that we need to send 30,000 troops into Syria to attack the neo-cons. Hahahah Trump supporters. Dumb as rocks....

I have a couple of rocks here who were insulted by your comments. They in fact are more consistent and polished than any Trump supporter ever will be.

Anyways, the thing with Trump is.. What will he think next week. There is absolutely no evidence the guy sticks to any opinion for any amount of time.

 

[twomp]

I didn't say that, Trump did. I explained to you why your idiotic theory is, well, idiotic.

Where did Trump say that he wants to send troops to Syria to stop the neo-cons? Idiot. You were the one that said that... Trump supporters..... go figure...