Paul Ryan is a leader for sound money

[pcosmar]

Ah,,
someone is trying to sell snake oil.

 

[schiffheadbaby]

IS this a joke?

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare D, Iraq war, NCLB, didn't fight on debt ceiling.

You can't be for big gov and sound money, they are incompatible but I guess we have some here who are very very naive

 

[roho76]

He has a short list of three possible spellings...

He just called Ron Paul to ask him if he had 3 or 5 different spellings and what the correct spelling is.

Maybe it's the "sound of money" that Paul Ryan likes..

Exactly. If he's for sound money then I'm for total genocide.

 

[MelissaWV]

hi Bradley...

Run. Just run. It's not the same place.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Everything about this post is a lie. Please retract it. Paul Ryan's voting record does everything BUT further the idea of sound money.

Those who know me, know that monetary policy is one of, if not the, most important issues to me. I'm not saying Paul Ryan doesn't have his faults (he does) or that I agree with all of his votes (I don't), but of the universe of people in Congress in my lifetime who have advocated for sound money, there are way too few. Paul Ryan has always been on that short list. Of those, along with Ron Paul, Paul Ryan has been a leader for many years by introducing bills to limit and reform the Fed. That, at least, I'm happy about (there has to be some silver lining, right?).

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I think you misunderstand the phrasing Paul Ryan uses.

He doesn't like SOUND MONEY.

He likes the SOUND of MONEY.

Good to see you too, Kotin <waves>

No, none of Paul Ryan's monetary policy reform bills to limit the Fed were ever voted on as far as I know. But by that standard Ron Paul has a poor record on our issues too.

More importantly, as I said, Ryan has been taking a lead introducing anti-Fed bills.

 

[Matt Collins]

At CPAC 2011 a friend of mine had a conversation at an afterparty with a Paul Ryan staffer who happened to be there. When he found out we were Ron Paul supporters, the Paul Ryan staffer said "oh yeah, Paul Ryan is a libertarian too.. he just can't show it because he has to play the game". After laughing in his face and saying "well then what good is he?", my friend stood up and walked away. People in DC are delusiounal.

 

[Travlyr]

hi Bradley...

Run. Just run. It's not the same place.

Yeah, Hi Bradley. That's right. It's not the same place. We don't believe the bullshit anymore.

Don't chase him away, Melissa. Bradley is just doing his job. His job is to obfuscate the truth and promote the lie. That is what the D.C. part stands for. He is welcome to post here anytime because that gives us a chance to point out the facts. Paul Ryan is not promoting sound money in that video. He is talking bullshit. Bradley wants us to believe otherwise. They are just lying to see who has done their homework and who hasn't.

 

[MelissaWV]

Yeah, Hi Bradley. That's right. It's not the same place. We don't believe the bullshit anymore.

Don't chase him away, Melissa. Bradley is just doing his job. His job is to obfuscate the truth and promote the lie. That is what the D.C. part stands for. He is welcome to post here anytime because that gives us a chance to point out the facts. Paul Ryan is not promoting sound money in that video. He is talking bullshit. Bradley wants us to believe otherwise. They are just lying to see who has done their homework and who hasn't.

I'm not chasing anyone. I'm giving the same advice I have given to everyone I worked with in 2007/2008 who took a rest and is now hoping to come back here and find people willing to climb the stairs to the 100th floor, rather than attempting to jump and ridiculing those who take ascension a step or two at a time.

 

[Travlyr]

I'm not chasing anyone. I'm giving the same advice I have given to everyone I worked with in 2007/2008 who took a rest and is now hoping to come back here and find people willing to climb the stairs to the 100th floor, rather than attempting to jump and ridiculing those who take ascension a step or two at a time.

Don't get me wrong, Melissa. I met Bradley, and that is when I quit campaigning for Adam Kokesh. It cost me a lot of time and money. I saw firsthand what Bradley was undermining.

 

[steph3n]

I don't think Paul Ryan has any understanding of Sound Money, but nice to see you post Bradley

 

[Deanna]

My post was too long, so I'm breaking it up. Apologies in advance.

I've been in the chat here, but not posted to the forums. I was a strong Ron Paul supporter. I'm older then most here as I am in my 40s. But it doesn't seem that long ago that I was the age of many here. Time goes very quickly. You start out saving and doing well, but sometimes life gives you a hard blow.

I've paid into the Social Security system (which I did not resent when I was younger, as I felt it helped the "older" generation) for over 30 years (before I was 18 I worked). I resent, deeply, that Ryan's priority to balance the budget is to attack Medicare! It needs to eliminate MediCAID for 99% of the people! I have a lot of experience I can share. I can tell you that many people LIVE on the medicaid system. They feel they are "entitled" to get free money. Visit the emergency rooms - not one but visit many. It is FILLED with welfare recipients and illegal aliens who get all the benefits for FREE. They get all the tests that the rest of us can't afford! Yet, neither Romney nor Ryan address these issues - but they want to take from those who have paid into a system for decades?

I realize many young people feel this is right - but it's not. The years go by quickly. People on welfare HAVE a choice - people who are getting older do not. I know people who have career jobs and were FORCED to retire - and now have to work in McDonalds. If you think that is right - remember, you, too will be there sooner then you think.

 

[Deanna]

There are so many ways that this budget needs repair. Starting with those who have paid into a system for decades isn't it. And, realistically, seniors aren't the problem. It's the illegal aliens and the welfare recipients. The other problem is the mass amount of funding that goes into "special interest." Pharmaceuticals earn massive funding destroying people's lives! Do you know how many people whose lives have been utterly destroyed because of that power house industry and the FDA? Stop giving millions of dollars so people can put electrodes in animals that they torture over and over again for no reason other then to fulfill their sociopathic needs (fact). Stop funding special interest. Education is a broken system with funding inappropriately used - and stolen. Yes, stolen.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'm older than you, but what are you talking about/inferring? What I just gathered from your lengthy post was an attempt to paint younger supporters with a broad brush, and with an opinion they don't hold.

My post was too long, so I'm breaking it up. Apologies in advance.

I've been in the chat here, but not posted to the forums. I was a strong Ron Paul supporter. I'm older then most here as I am in my 40s. But it doesn't seem that long ago that I was the age of many here. Time goes very quickly. You start out saving and doing well, but sometimes life gives you a hard blow.

I've paid into the Social Security system (which I did not resent when I was younger, as I felt it helped the "older" generation) for over 30 years (before I was 18 I worked). I resent, deeply, that Ryan's priority to balance the budget is to attack Medicare! It needs to eliminate MediCAID for 99% of the people! I have a lot of experience I can share. I can tell you that many people LIVE on the medicaid system. They feel they are "entitled" to get free money. Visit the emergency rooms - not one but visit many. It is FILLED with welfare recipients and illegal aliens who get all the benefits for FREE. They get all the tests that the rest of us can't afford! Yet, neither Romney nor Ryan address these issues - but they want to take from those who have paid into a system for decades?

I realize many young people feel this is right - but it's not. The years go by quickly. People on welfare HAVE a choice - people who are getting older do not. I know people who have career jobs and were FORCED to retire - and now have to work in McDonalds. If you think that is right - remember, you, too will be there sooner then you think.

 

[Deanna]

Don’t start with the Social Security. It’s a government ploy to get young people to resent the generation of their parents. They did it when I was your age (only difference is, I didn’t buy into it. I didn’t mind helping the generation that worked hard. I resented the very idea it being taken from my parents, and given to others!

You do a flat tax and clean up welfare – those 2 along will create a massive turn in the economy. Trickle down economy? You’ll see, it doesn’t work! The rich get richer and the middle class get poorer. Both the GoP and the dems pander to the 76% that pay little or no taxes! The GoP to the wealthy – the Dems to the welfare and “poor.”

Ryan a good choice? We’ll be no better off – we’ll have Romneycare and the reform of Soc Services that Ryan wants is nothing short of Genocide. Be ready to watch your parents struggle – t lose the homes they worked hard all their lives so the welfare and illegals can have the money – or prepare yourself to be able to take care of the people who gave all to take care of you. Because their generation is screwed and so will yours be when you get to that point. If anyone should get a helping hand, it’s the elderly, the seniors, and the handicapped or disabled - not all the wealthy government officials and the wealthy CEOs who became wealthy by cheating everyone else, nor the people who want to sit around and steal from everyone else, and not the big corporations that get funding when they should earn it on their own o lose it – just as the middle class must do!!!

 

[Deanna]

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[Deanna]

Not at all. Much apologies if it came across that way. I have had the recent displeasure of being in a chat with radical right wing GoP who are infuriating. Many young people would come in and say that the funds belong to them and the older generaiton should "step aside." Those 2 experiences have been quite upsetting. Since I came to this forum, and once met many wonderful young people whom I agreed with - and few when I first came were in my age group. Now, I see people posting in favor of Ryan's proposal for Medicare and social security.

This is deeply disturbing to me. One the one hand we have Obama with is horrid Obamacare, and out of control spending now we have Romney who wants to "repeal and replace" with something not much different. I was actually considering voting for Romeny as I felt he was a bettercandidate than Obama - but I still did not care for him. Now, with Ryan as a choice? And if you to the likes of foxnews' live chat it is sickening how many rally behind him - of all ages. I was disappointed to see people here in such favor of Ryan.

 

[roho76]

Don’t start with the Social Security. It’s a government ploy to get young people to resent the generation of their parents. They did it when I was your age (only difference is, I didn’t buy into it. I didn’t mind helping the generation that worked hard. I resented the very idea it being taken from my parents, and given to others!

You do a flat tax and clean up welfare – those 2 along will create a massive turn in the economy. Trickle down economy? You’ll see, it doesn’t work! The rich get richer and the middle class get poorer. Both the GoP and the dems pander to the 76% that pay little or no taxes! The GoP to the wealthy – the Dems to the welfare and “poor.”

Ryan a good choice? We’ll be no better off – we’ll have Romneycare and the reform of Soc Services that Ryan wants is nothing short of Genocide. Be ready to watch your parents struggle – t lose the homes they worked hard all their lives so the welfare and illegals can have the money – or prepare yourself to be able to take care of the people who gave all to take care of you. Because their generation is screwed and so will yours be when you get to that point. If anyone should get a helping hand, it’s the elderly, the seniors, and the handicapped or disabled - not all the wealthy government officials and the wealthy CEOs who became wealthy by cheating everyone else, nor the people who want to sit around and steal from everyone else, and not the big corporations that get funding when they should earn it on their own o lose it – just as the middle class must do!!!

The flat tax is a horrible idea. We don't need a tax on wages, period. It is "legalized" slavery. Anybody can see that.

If I make $50,000 a year then I owe $10,000 a year in taxes at a 20% tax rate and I have $40,000 left to live on.
If I make $100,000 a year then I owe $20,000 a year in taxes at 20% tax rate and I have $80,000 left to live on.

See the difference? It hurts those with lesser incomes more. My money is my money and not their money. What you should be talking about on this forum is abolishing income taxes and reducing spending.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Deanna, Paul Ryan does actually have good ideas for entitlement programs, and they do not cut off people currently or close to going onto them.

 

[Travlyr]

Deanna, Paul Ryan does actually have good ideas for entitlement programs, and they do not cut off people currently or close to going onto them.

No he doesn't. He proposes a government solution to a problem created by government. It won't work.

Sound money 'rings' when dropped on a hard surface. Sound money is real. Sound money is the correct solution, but Paul Ryan doesn't get it, or promote it. He claims the Fed can create sound money. Do you actually believe him?