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[speciallyblend]

Don't be such a debbie downer.

After all, doesn't Tangent have a right to just take money for whatever reasons he wants?

Doesn't Tangent have the right to completely misrepresent whether we were buying the service at cost or for full price?

good try but i was just repeating exactly what the project organizers said!!

 

[parocks]

totally agree. did we not get video of the flight on thursday?? great work on this project keep it up!!

We are not aware of any video from Thursday.

Pasta had to take Gage from the airport.

They don't have cabs in Orlando apparently.

Pasta suggests we spend another $1000 to fly tomorrow.

In Pastas defense, he was committed to pick Gage up at the airport yesterday.

 

[parocks]

good try but i was just repeating exactly what the project organizers said!!

I guess I left off the sarcasm tag?

 

[speciallyblend]

We are not aware of any video from Thursday.

Pasta had to take Gage from the airport.

They don't have cabs in Orlando apparently.

Pasta suggests we spend another $1000 to fly tomorrow.


In Pastas defense, he was committed to pick Gage up at the airport yesterday.

kewl, i understand, stuff happens, you guys got it done on debate night keep up the good work. murphys law always steps in no matter how well things are planned!!

 

[speciallyblend]

I guess I left off the sarcasm tag?

no worries , i wondered i wasn't sure. hehe

 

[parocks]

kewl, i understand, stuff happens, you guys got it done on debate night keep up the good work. murphys law always steps in no matter how well things are planned!!

it was planned extremely badly.

There was no planning whatsoever for any video.

On the day of the event, yesterday, video was considered.

I remembered that Pasta was from Orlando and posted that. Pasta saw it, said that he'd like to do it, but he had to pick up Gage.

We should be getting better at this, not worse. And we really have to get better. It's not like Ron Paul went to Bilderberg and the media decided that all stories about the Presidential race have to include "Ron Paul" in the headline or a picture of Ron Paul.

Even if we are 100% perfect, we have to come up with a lot of tactics completely unheard of in politics.

So, just being encouraging to make everybody happy is not helpful.

Every single idea needs to get beaten up. And if it's left standing, it's a good idea and we should do it.

 

[Danke]

hes sharing his constructive criticism and raising valid points. besides hes a rather new member, chill out.

Why do you think a sock puppet is new?

 

[Tarzan]

No, I am just asking pertinent and important questions. I am not even currently criticizing the idea.

I have to agree with you!!!
We should be asking pertinent and important questions... about lots of things.

For example:
1. We should be asking questions about an organization that hires inexperienced staffers that have more experience alienating voters & supporters... and being fired from professional and political positions... and being paid using donations from grassroots supporters.
2. We should be asking questions about an organization that collected over $4 million for a stated purpose... then, spends it on another without any input from the donors.
3. We should be asking questions about the professionalism of an organization that uses its good standing to sell cook books and solicit donations for individuals unable to accept personal responsibility for their actions and those results.
4. We should be asking questions of paid staffers who have no experience performing at this level... and with an obvious lacking in marketing and successful political campaigning techniques and are woefully stuck in a path that will lead to an election defeat.
5. We should be asking questions about why the dogmatic views of a few, poorly educated, inexperienced amateurs would be given credence in their marketing & campaign suppositions... and, even worse, be paid with donated funds to provide this bad advise and repeated failed results.
6. We should be asking why a paid campaign staffer, who is not allowed to direct or attempt to direct grassroots efforts, would create an obviously transparent disguise in an attempt to influence and change the direction of (or derail) grassroots efforts.

So... I absolutely agree with you!!! The grassroots is making donations for these efforts... it's their money and they should be asking some tough questions... and expecting real answers and actions to address problems and failure. They should be expecting successful results this time around. Not the failures and repeated bad decisions of the past!

Dear me... if only there were some way of getting all organizations and individuals to be responsible and responsive when collecting and spending donated funds... from many people with little in the way of resources who are making genuine financial and personal sacrifices... and are not being paid using donated funds from by grassroots supporters.

 

[ZanZibar]

They should be expecting successful results this time around. Not the failures and repeated bad decisions of the past!

Which is exactly what has happened. Ron is about to move to #2 in the polls in key states, moved from #5 to essentially being tied in the Iowa Straw Poll, and has more mainstream support this time than last time.

#winning

 

[parocks]

Why do you think a sock puppet is new?

I'm sure you have a thread, or a link somewhere, that proves your allegation.

 

[orenbus]

Could you describe these examples in more detail? I have no idea what you are talking about but from the tone of your post it feels like you are making certain allegations that were made previously I must have missed. Sorry I haven't been paying as much attention on these forums lately as I guess I should? More information would be appreciated, specifically to the items you listed as examples;

#2, what money, what stated purpose? Are you talking about the campaign in 2008 and then the Campaign For Liberty? I don't want to jump to conclusions I rather just have you explain your assertions.
#6 it seems that some people here are saying that certain members on this forum work for the campaign and are making posts trying to somewhat direct grassroot projects in an indirect way? is there proof of this?

Thanks.

I have to agree with you!!!
We should be asking pertinent and important questions... about lots of things.

For example:
1. We should be asking questions about an organization that hires inexperienced staffers that have more experience alienating voters & supporters... and being fired from professional and political positions... and being paid using donations from grassroots supporters.
2. We should be asking questions about an organization that collected over $4 million for a stated purpose... then, spends it on another without any input from the donors.
3. We should be asking questions about the professionalism of an organization that uses its good standing to sell cook books and solicit donations for individuals unable to accept personal responsibility for their actions and those results.
4. We should be asking questions of paid staffers who have no experience performing at this level... and with an obvious lacking in marketing and successful political campaigning techniques and are woefully stuck in a path that will lead to an election defeat.
5. We should be asking questions about why the dogmatic views of a few, poorly educated, inexperienced amateurs would be given credence in their marketing & campaign suppositions... and, even worse, be paid with donated funds to provide this bad advise and repeated failed results.
6. We should be asking why a paid campaign staffer, who is not allowed to direct or attempt to direct grassroots efforts, would create an obviously transparent disguise in an attempt to influence and change the direction of (or derail) grassroots efforts.

So... I absolutely agree with you!!! The grassroots is making donations for these efforts... it's their money and they should be asking some tough questions... and expecting real answers and actions to address problems and failure. They should be expecting successful results this time around. Not the failures and repeated bad decisions of the past!

Dear me... if only there were some way of getting all organizations and individuals to be responsible and responsive when collecting and spending donated funds... from many people with little in the way of resources who are making genuine financial and personal sacrifices... and are not being paid using donated funds from by grassroots supporters.

 

[Danke]

I'm sure you have a thread, or a link somewhere, that proves your allegation.

I'm sure you're right.

 

[lucky_bg]

I have to agree with you!!!
We should be asking pertinent and important questions... about lots of things.

For example:
1. We should be asking questions about an organization that hires inexperienced staffers that have more experience alienating voters & supporters... and being fired from professional and political positions... and being paid using donations from grassroots supporters.
2. We should be asking questions about an organization that collected over $4 million for a stated purpose... then, spends it on another without any input from the donors.
3. We should be asking questions about the professionalism of an organization that uses its good standing to sell cook books and solicit donations for individuals unable to accept personal responsibility for their actions and those results.
4. We should be asking questions of paid staffers who have no experience performing at this level... and with an obvious lacking in marketing and successful political campaigning techniques and are woefully stuck in a path that will lead to an election defeat.
5. We should be asking questions about why the dogmatic views of a few, poorly educated, inexperienced amateurs would be given credence in their marketing & campaign suppositions... and, even worse, be paid with donated funds to provide this bad advise and repeated failed results.
6. We should be asking why a paid campaign staffer, who is not allowed to direct or attempt to direct grassroots efforts, would create an obviously transparent disguise in an attempt to influence and change the direction of (or derail) grassroots efforts.

So... I absolutely agree with you!!! The grassroots is making donations for these efforts... it's their money and they should be asking some tough questions... and expecting real answers and actions to address problems and failure. They should be expecting successful results this time around. Not the failures and repeated bad decisions of the past!

Dear me... if only there were some way of getting all organizations and individuals to be responsible and responsive when collecting and spending donated funds... from many people with little in the way of resources who are making genuine financial and personal sacrifices... and are not being paid using donated funds from by grassroots supporters.

+rep Glad to see you're back.

 

[angelatc]

Every single idea needs to get beaten up. .

That right there is crap. We don't need or want you to concern troll the grassroots initiatives. Most of us here are grownups. If you don't like the idea, you should go away.

 

[ZanZibar]

That right there is crap. We don't need or want you to concern troll the grassroots initiatives. Most of us here are grownups. If you don't like the idea, you should go away.

I think what he means is that every idea should be discussed, debate, and deliberated upon. In otherwords good ideas should be able to withstand scrutiny.

 

[angelatc]

I'm sure you have a thread, or a link somewhere, that proves your allegation.

Oh for heavens sakes. Now we know for sure you think we're stupid.

A new guy joins right after the last canpaign troll was busted trying to disrupt the grassroots, and is immediately invited into the same private working groups that the RP2012 staffer was working in, but we're not supposed to believe he's the same guy.

You honestly think he's just some random new guy? SPeaking of smacking stupid down - consider this a smack.

And yet you're here to point out that the grassroots people are too stupid to spend their own money on things they enjoy. Irony.

 

[angelatc]

I think what he means is that every idea should be discussed, debate, and deliberated upon. In otherwords good ideas should be able to withstand scrutiny.

I don't care what he means, troll. Man up and confess your real identity.

 

[angelatc]

It is not big secret that <<censored so I don't get banned at the request of the campaign who are trying to influence the grassroots activities>> is same person. Or, better say, person with a multiple personality disorder. You know, like dr Jackil, good guy, and mr Hyde, bad guy. Interesting thing is, in this case all personalities are bad...

You will get banned for saying his name. For some reason they won't explain, they're supporting the campaign's efforts to destroy the spirit of the revolution.

 

[Aratus]

dude, the cartoon cigar is ubiquitous

it also fits a pattern that you know who is infamous for

so... all i can say at this point is... hopefully the mods + admin are forgiving

 

[Aratus]

we have hopes of doctor ron paul being top three in florida and michigan this weekend!