Paul must answer these racism charges...

VoluntaryMan said:
Yes, but his was only one of many names on a list of possibles, as I understand it, and was in direct response to a question about possible VP nominees. It wasn't a defensive manuever. There's a difference. Pat Buchanan picked Foster in 2000, not in 1992, because Buckley called him a nazi.
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Yeah, I know, this was months ago. It's just another little indicator that Paul is in fact....NOT A RACIST
 
SeanEdwards said:
Are you willfully missing the point?
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I think I'm missing your point as well.

Are you saying that the best way to counter these claims of racism is to go out and pick up a high profiled African-American as his running mate?

I don't think it works that way.
 
Quick said:
I think I'm missing your point as well.

Are you saying that the best way to counter these claims of racism is to go out and pick up a high profiled African-American as his running mate?

I don't think it works that way.
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The point is that it doesn't matter factually if Ron is or is not a racist. What matters is the perception, and the perceived narrative of the campaign. The election is a popularity contest, it has almost nothing to do with reality or facts.

Proving in a court of law that the signatures are forged, WILL DO NOTHING TO STOP THE SMEAR.

Is that clear enough for you?
 
Sure, but that's exactly why he's doing everything with press releases. If he did it on video, it would be on every media site, TV channel, and youtube by the end of the day. Text will be forgotten in a few days when the next primary hits.
 
sasha_2008 said:
If the person was an employee who was fired an employer can't discuss the person's employment situation. I think the person would need to step forward on their own, Ron Paul can't name them without legal consequences.
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Then he's pretty much hamstrung on this, and the press needs to either conduct their own investigation or moive on.
 
Look, you guys are hung up on this notion of proving Ron is innocent. And that is totally irrelevant. Why can't you understand? This is an election, not a trial. Proof and facts have no bearing. The enemies of this campaign will just keep repeating lies as long as they can, even once they know they are lies.

You will never stop this smear by protestations of innocence. Politics doesn't work that way.
 
SeanEdwards said:
Proving in a court of law that the signatures are forged, WILL DO NOTHING TO STOP THE SMEAR.
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You use bold letters to emphasize that this smear cannot be stopped. But where has it started? Short of TNR's article a few days ago, who else has picked this smear up? I've been on numerous major/minor news sites and a variety of blogs for the last few days and I'm seeing little if not mention of any of it.

To be able to stop this smear from spreading, it has to spread. You might be jumping the gun here.

Oh, I don't want to forget. Let me be a sarcastic asshole too and add this..

Is that clear enough for you?
 
This smear hasn't been picked up by the MSM because they don't follow Ron Paul very closely, especially because he didn't do as well as expected in NH. If Ron Paul wins a state, you better believe the MSM will be reading the contents of these newsletters on the air.
 
Quick said:
You use bold letters to emphasize that this smear cannot be stopped. But where has it started? Short of TNR's article a few days ago, who else has picked this smear up? I've been on numerous major/minor news sites and a variety of blogs for the last few days and I'm seeing little if not mention of any of it.

To be able to stop this smear from spreading, it has to spread. You might be jumping the gun here.

Oh, I don't want to forget. Let me be a sarcastic asshole too and add this..

Is that clear enough for you?
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I have heard it repeated a few times on my local FOX news radio station, but other than that, I hear about it here more than anywhere else. :rolleyes:
 
JahWarrior said:
I have heard it repeated a few times on my local FOX news radio station, but other than that, I hear about it here more than anywhere else. :rolleyes:
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Yup. And it's not like Faux needs help from NR to smear Paul. I'm pretty sure that is at the top of its hourly to-do list...
 
Duckman said:
This smear hasn't been picked up by the MSM because they don't follow Ron Paul very closely, especially because he didn't do as well as expected in NH. If Ron Paul wins a state, you better believe the MSM will be reading the contents of these newsletters on the air.
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No, they won't. TNR is NOT a reliable source.
 
Quick said:
You use bold letters to emphasize that this smear cannot be stopped. But where has it started? Short of TNR's article a few days ago, who else has picked this smear up? I've been on numerous major/minor news sites and a variety of blogs for the last few days and I'm seeing little if not mention of any of it.

To be able to stop this smear from spreading, it has to spread. You might be jumping the gun here.

Oh, I don't want to forget. Let me be a sarcastic asshole too and add this..

Is that clear enough for you?
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The one thing that's clear to me is that you are clueless about how elections are won in this country.
 
JahWarrior said:
I have heard it repeated a few times on my local FOX news radio station, but other than that, I hear about it here more than anywhere else. :rolleyes:
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That's expected. You'll hear a few blurps about it over the next few days until it dies with the rest of the news cycle. The worst thing that the campaign could do now is to give it anymore acknowledgment and allow it to catch wind.

But, the fact that the NYTimes, back in July 2007 talked about the newsletters and dismissed saying that Paul wasn't involved is a pretty clear indication that the MSM isn't going to do anything much with it. And that is a recent dismissal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/magazine/22Paul-t.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
 
Duckman said:
This stuff is also in National Review. It will surface if Ron Paul makes more waves.
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The MSM will be careful picking up this story. If a big media outlet were to make claims that Ron Paul is a racist and that he was involved, and then later found out it wasn't true, you want to talk about blowback.. remember when Dan Rather made a similar mistake?

My belief is that it would have been picked up by now if it had any foundations and solid evidence that Ron Paul knew of and/or wrote the contents of those newsletters. The fact that it was disproved several years ago when the Democrats in Texas released it during his bid for Congress in 1996, and a few times since, including NY Times in July 2007 really proves that the case isn't strong enough to risk the blowback it would cause.
 
Quick said:
The MSM will be careful picking up this story. If a big media outlet were to make claims that Ron Paul is a racist and that he was involved, and then later found out it wasn't true, you want to talk about blowback.. remember when Dan Rather made a similar mistake?
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PLUS the thousands of angry Paul supporters :D
 
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